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They never did figure it out. They had to be told. Conservatives are really bad at seeing the obvious much less any level of nuance.
That would be because, by and large, conservatives are fucking stupid
That's what happens when you tout that learning and education is bad and for the devil.
It's a huge swathe of masses who envies the knowledge of others and fears that they do not understand. Rather than admit their faults they double down on "learning is for dummies"
Don't get me wrong, there are many learned republicans, but the smartest ones are the ones who get elected. They fuck everybody else over for their own gains while being worshipped.
Obviously.
I just said it plainly so they, too, can understand.
No chance of that. They can't see themselves as stupid because they did their own research.
Where are you published?
“Not that kind of research!”
Oh, so you looked some shit up. Got it.
I’d say lazy more than anything. If you asked one about what is actually in the bible they’d get all offended over having to do the work of reading it in order to defend it. They’d just sink into staunch reaffirmation without lifting a finger.
Conservatives love pastiche. So they can just take shit at face value and have a great time.
No introspection, because that would ruin the fun.
Wait, what is this about? Are you saying that there are some people who can't figure out that homelander is the bad guy? Can you point me to one of these people?
Just go look through any The boys discussions and you will find those that think he is just doing whats necessary. There you have been pointed.
I just had a discussion about it with my friends, some of which are conservatives, and none of the people there were confused as to him being a bad guy, so you'll have to be more specific than some vague waving around in the air.
That being said, I get that people might side with him. Just like people side with the joker and Tyler durden. But how do you know they're conservatives?
Go away troll. No matter what I say you will just come back with some other lame question. Go read the threads and find out. I'm out.
You're inability to defend the claim is not my fault. It's easier to call me a troll than admit that maybe the claim is straight up bs.
Of course there are some conservatives who think homelander is the good guy. Some percentage of every group is just f****** stupid.
But if you're looking for examples, the top comment here is an easy one. There will of course be more out there because conservatives aren't some monolith who all have the same opinion. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBoys/comments/1djocb4/comment/l9cld4p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Of course that's not representative of all conservatives. The ones you know are probably very fine people.
Yeah, agreed. I shouldn't speak in absolutes. There are probably also people from the left who think he is the good guy.
But I agree with the sentiment of that comment itself: they idolize him because he does what he wants. I would also add that he projects himself as outwardly strong, which is another train they probably admire. But I don't think they are confused into believe this is the good guy. I think that thread is actually pretty good evidence of what I suspect - that this isn't really a thing - because the only thing in that thread that points to any type of evidence is that picture. . .which is certainly open to a ton of interpretation outside of "Homelander is the good guy."
My guess as to what has happened is that some people were idolizing him for his projected strength and arrogance, kind of like how they idolize Trump, maybe even tongue in cheek a bit, and people thought "only conservatives could be that dumb" and then it morphed into "conservatives think Homelander is the good guy."
Ah yeah. The term "good" is overloaded. I don't think anyone thinks he's good morally. That would be next level stupid. But I do think some people think he's 'good', as in they idolize him.
That said, I don't even understand the conservative platform anymore. It used to be small government and let people do what they want. But now all the conservatives I know want to use big government to stop people from doing what they want.
I think the old conservatives are now "fiscally responsible liberals" maybe?
It's literally the meme by the OP that conservatives are "discovering" that he is "bad" and the top level comment I responded to claiming that it needed to be explained to them and they couldn't figure it out. And that was my question, if anyone could actually point to someone being this stupid. Which is why I think this whole "conservatives think he is good!" is, well, almost next level stupid.
That's what they used to say but it was never actually the case. I'm not sure how old you are, but "cancel culture" was something that existed long before left-wingers abandoned liberalism and took ahold of it, as conservative christians did it all the time. It just had to be rebranded when the left took it over and did it far more effectively.
On top of that, I remember when I was first convinced that gay marriage should be legal. I thought "man, this is actually a very conservative position that the government get out of the business of dictating what two people can enter into this contract."
The "small government" has always just been an excuse to cut taxes.
But I agree with you that Trump has pulled them completely off the rails.
I think that's the problem though. It wasn't Trump that pulled them off the rails. The GOP hasn't shrunk the government for as long as I can remember, and I'm in my 40s. You probably have to go back before Reagan to find a Republican president (or any president besides Clinton) that actually cut spending.
So anyone who is fiscally responsible today and calling themselves a conservative, must be a conservative for other reasons.
So besides money, what are the other things conservatives do? Why would anyone still be a conservative?
I don't it's solely conservatives that have trouble seeing the obvious.
But maybe I've spent too much time on lemmy arguing with tankie socialists.
I disagree. It’s the most obvious you can get, like judging a book by the cover without even reading the blurb on the back of it. Why open the book when what it’s about is obvious? No effort, analysis, or thought required.