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[–] Boozilla 173 points 6 days ago (7 children)

As much as I disliked Steve Jobs, the man was 100% correct when he talked about companies rotting from the inside. They get taken over by sales & marketing types and the product designers and user experience experts get kicked to the curb.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Apple being the pinnacle of this. They were the first ones that made devices theirs, not yours.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, exactly. I find the shilling for MacOS a bit concerning, already from the article and also the comments.

A Mac feels more like yours than Windows? Just goes to shows how shitty Windows has become, not how MacOS is better.

[–] Veraxus 45 points 6 days ago

Mac has always felt more like mine than Windows. Nothing has changed there.

And neither holds a candle to the pure, blinding, white light that is Linux. GNOME, KDE, the world is your oyster and the desktop is your choice.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In comparison with Windows and iOS, Mac OS is a paradigm of respecting the user. Of course that's only because the bar is firmly embedded on Earth's inner core.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah dude, holy shit. Cannot believe these comments here. Does anyone of the MacOs evangelists have an example of how MacOs "respects the user"?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Steve Jobs was no different from the rest in Silicon Valley who would spout virtues out loud while simultaneously undermining them in practice.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

I'd even go as far as to say many of them today are just copying Jobs. He was a terrible person.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They get taken over by sales & marketing types

Like Steve Jobs lol.

[–] Boozilla 13 points 5 days ago

Yeah, he was a hypocrit and I despised the guy. Woz was the real hero of Apple. But Jobs did say that stuff, and he was correct in that moment. We see it over and over.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Apple didn't rot from the inside. It was built on a pile of compost. "End to end control" has always been the ethos of Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What are you on about? Yes they made sure their gadgets were easy to use, but Apple and Jobs were the pinnacle of "locking you in" on their ecosystem for the profit of it. Sure they weren't as careless about users when compared to Microsoft but they weren't too favourable of you using anything else. They invented this stuff.

[–] EnderMB 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

From a company perspective, it's a common sentiment. Google and Amazon have mantras around trying to stay agile and relevant despite being behemoths, and both have arguably kept into boomer tech territory the second they made a poor CEO hire. Microsoft had their Ballmer era, and while Nadella did a lot of good at Microsoft they've had a lot of failures in established divisions to be soaked up by AI and sales.

I think that all of big tech has struggled over the last 3 years. Sacrificing employee skill for shareholder value has ultimately moved them all into IBM territory, whereas the cool tech is happening at startups again. If AI is a bust, and another company comes along and eats their lunch in their established markets like consumer devices, web tooling, or cloud computing, they're in real danger of another huge set of layoffs and resetting their businesses to only core profit-making ventures. What I think we've seen companies shift towards death, Day 2, rotting from the inside, or whatever your business calls stagnation.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

There's a reason I run Linux, and root my Android

Because it actually feels like my device now

(And fixing issues is significantly easier, if you know where to look)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Only now?
My Windows computer stopped felling mine when 10 came around

[–] [email protected] 90 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Tux awaits your arrival friends. Join us.

[–] NegativeLookBehind 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 days ago

Because it's not. It's a Microsoft Billboard.

[–] Sanctus 60 points 6 days ago (16 children)

This dude is begging for an ad free windows at the end. Why? They're too far gone. Go make a new home in another OS. It will be okay.

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[–] _number8_ 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a perfect way to put it. I remember starting college and being really excited about the cloud, having my stuff accessible anywhere, changes automatically saved, etc etc. but now I don't want any of my shit anywhere near their servers, it's mine and mine alone and I'll manage it myself and buffer against losses the best I can. I'd rather have myself fuck up and break a hard drive rather than let microsoft or apple wipe my stuff over a bug or because I didn't pay them enough. Horrible, misleading bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think you'd like syncthing

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] 4vgj0e 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I helped my parents migrate to linux mint and they are very happy with the transition. No more ads, dumb bing search suggestions, or MS edge.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore.

Aww.

If you love it, set it free!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

it never been

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Buying windows is like self flagellation. You have to be a masochist to enjoy it,especially the apologetic users.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for many, even in this day and age, there is not much choice. I main linux but also keep Windows on my PC as there are still tines when something will only work in Windows. Usually work related or gaming (VR in particular for me) and in fairness its increasingly rare.

Many other users aren't motivated to change. For Microsoft, its a bit like boiling a frog - if you turn up the heat slowly the frog just puts up with it. That's what Microsoft is doing to its customers - a slow constant enshittification, seeing what it can get away with. Try something and it causes outrage? Don't worry, just undo it and just try again in a few years! Many are already used to no privacy and being sold as a commodity that they don't even question it happening on their own personal computer.

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[–] vxx 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are there different versions of Windows 11? Mine doesn't show ads at all.

[–] set_secret 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago

I love hip hop too but music is not the answer.

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[–] eruchitanda 19 points 6 days ago

The thing that makes me laugh/cry/be happy I switched to Linux, is that it's in that state, but it's a paid product.

If the license was free it was somewhat okay, but it's not. People are still paying.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's the year of the Linux desktop.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Is BeOS still floating around?

[–] thedeadwalking4242 5 points 4 days ago

No but here is a open source branch of it called haiku and it works great!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

@ChickenLadyLovesLife @dvdnet62 Not as such. I mean it is but its drivers are 25 years out of date now. YellowTab Zeta is out there too which was updated a bit but is still ancient.

But there is Haiku. Bigger, slower, more complicated, but it does a lot more.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 7 points 5 days ago (6 children)

As I recall, Gasse was offered something like $440 million for BeOS by Apple and he turned them down. Not sure it would have made any difference in anything by this point, but at least Objective-C wouldn't have been littered with classes with the "NS" prefix.

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