We've gone full circle - North Korea and South Korea wage a proxy war among western belligerents. Now if Seoul could just propose an end to hostilities along a particular meridian...
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Quit "considering" and fucking do it.
God, quit dragging this thing out so that more families get slaughtered.
Spokesperson has to respond immediately. Paperwork and analysis people take a bit more time.
Seeing south korean self propelled artillery in Ukraine would warm my cold, mosquito infested Finnish heart.
Hell, they should churn out a few divisions of K2 MBTs for them too. I’m sure South Korea would be interested to see the results of some real-world battlefield testing.
I would have thought that one of the few benefits of living in a country that is that cold in the winter would spare you from mosquitoes. No wonder y'all are so pissy when Russia gets too big for their britches.
Yeah no mosquitoes in the winter.
We have a bit over hundred thousand lakes, a ton of ponds and swamps everywhere. So once the weather is warm enough, basically the whole country becomes a breeding pool for those little bastards.
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No jep. Taitaa jäädä vaeltelut aika vähälle. Noh, aina sitä voi syssyllä mennä
What Finland should do, is "invade" Ukraine. And they take over all the areas that russia control. Take them in the name of Finland. So at this point, they are Finland occupied, but still part of Ukraine.
Now if Russia comes in, they risk engaging in battle with a Finland occupied territory.....a NATO territory.
Crimea might be a bit trickier......because it's no longer considered part of Ukraine.
But then after the war ends, Finland occupies all of Ukraine. But not in a threatening way. Just to make sure russia doesn't come back.
Now if Ukraine on their own want to take back Crimea, they can......but I can't see that being a NATO thing.
And why would Finland do any of this? Well........it's russia. Fuck em.
nice hearts of iron rp
I get why, but I'm still a little surprised they haven't done it already.
Apart from who is north of their border, they're a small sea journey away from China, which is a major naval power. I think they were trying to avoid pissing off both.
It is illegal for S Korea to sell arms to anyone fighting in a war, a measure against war profiteering. That law will need to be changed in some way. That will not be easy, Korean culture is pretty conservative, very fond of the status quo. This is a strong incentive, however.
South Korean artillery shell production goes bbbrrrr.
Also a fine chance to get some battle testing on a battalion of K9's and maybe even a brigade of K2's.
Yo just offer to set up a joint production facility for the K2 on the Ukrainian/Polish border. The Poles already have an order for like 1000 of the things (no, not a typo). I’m sure South Korea would be very interested in rapidly iterating towards the K2A2 based on actual battlefield testing.
@gravitas_deficiency @MicroWave The contract for 1000 K2 is more of a letter of intent, and for now there is only a contract for 180 units (another 180 in the near future) - and that would probably be it, considering that Poland already has 360 Abrams tanks and over 200 Leopard 2's.
Talks over joint production are difficult, so K2PL seems unlikely. Koreans simply prefer to take the whole cake for themselves.
Ah yes Russia, please antagonise the country with one of the highest artillery shell stockpiles and production capacities in the world, what bad thing could result from that?
According to the text of the deal published by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency, if either country gets invaded and is pushed into a state of war, the other must deploy “all means at its disposal without delay” to provide “military and other assistance.” But the agreement also says that such actions must be in accordance with the laws of both countries and Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, which recognizes a U.N. member state’s right to self-defense.
This seems like the bigger point
Oh hell yes, it's about time.
"Consider"
It's not time yet, sadly.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The comments by a senior presidential official came hours after North Korea’s state media released the details of the agreement reached between its leader Kim Jong Un and Russian President Vladimir Putin during their summit on Wednesday in Pyongyang.
The presidential official, who spoke on condition of anonymity during a background briefing, according to office rules, said Seoul in response will reconsider the issue of providing arms to Ukraine to help the country fight off Russia’s invasion.
South Korea, a growing arms exporter with a well-equipped military backed by the United States, has provided humanitarian aid and other support to Ukraine while joining U.S.-led economic sanctions against Moscow.
KCNA said the agreements require the countries to take steps to prepare joint measures for the purpose of strengthening their defense capabilities to prevent war and protect regional and global peace and security.
Kim in recent months has made Russia his priority as he pushes a foreign policy aimed at expanding relations with countries confronting Washington, embracing the idea of a “new Cold War” and trying to display a united front in Putin’s broader conflicts with the West.
Tensions on the Korean Peninsula are at their highest point in years, with the pace of both Kim’s weapons tests and combined military exercises involving the U.S., South Korea and Japan intensifying in a tit-for-tat cycle.
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