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The Nevada Democratic Party is seeking to invalidate the Green Party’s effort to land on the state’s November ballot, arguing it did not gather enough valid signatures to gain ballot access.

The Green Party has not been on a Nevada general election ballot since 2008, when its candidate received around 1,400 votes. Including a qualified minor party on the ballot — one potentially able to pull dissatisfied left-leaning voters away from the Democratic Party — could have major impacts on the presidential race in Nevada, where President Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in 2020 by only about 33,000 votes out of more than a million cast.

The Green Party gathered nearly 30,000 petition signatures to land on the general election ballot, well more than the required amount of 10,095 signatures, which must be split evenly across Nevada’s four congressional districts. The party announced Monday that “as of this moment, the Nevada Green Party is on the Ballot.” The party has not submitted a candidate yet for the November ballot, but the party's former presidential candidate Jill Stein is running again this year. Stein called the lawsuit “outrageous” in a video posted to her campaign website.

Lawyers representing the Nevada Democratic Party filed public records requests to review the Green Party’s submitted signatures and petition, but the lawsuit said they had only received a handful of signatures and no copies of the petition.

“We have filed this challenge to preserve our rights to inspect the petitions consistent with Nevada state law,” Hilary Barrett, the executive director of the Nevada Democratic Party, said in a statement.

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[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like this is to verify the signatures that the Green party submitted/is submitting in order to gain ballot access.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/06/12/jxvj-j12.html

Call noted that the Democrats are suing the Nevada secretary of state, Democrat Francisco Aguilar, because his office provided “an incomplete file of our petitions,” which Call surmised would “be resolved simply by the Secretary of State providing them the complete file.”

Call clarified that the Green Party did not submit the required paperwork late. Instead, he wrote, “the Nevada Secretary of State processed it late and we have an affidavit to that effect.”

The Democratic Party campaign has mobilized vast resources, with millions of dollars and an army of lawyers deployed to block third-party challengers. Call said, “They are trying to bleed us out. A tactic of empire. I used the Wal-Mart analogy due to Wal-Mart’s strategy of putting its competitor out of business through overwhelming resources.”

Responding to the anti-democratic actions of the Democratic Party, Socialist Equality Party candidate for US president Joseph Kishore denounced “the efforts of the Democratic Party to keep Jill Stein off the ballot in Nevada. The SEP supports the right of all third-party candidates to get on the ballot.”

Kishore wrote that the Democrats’ efforts “to block candidates from obtaining ballot status is an attack on the most basic democratic right, the right to vote. The two parties of the capitalist ruling elite want to prevent workers and youth from having the ability to vote for anyone besides Biden and Trump.”

[–] frog_brawler 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Stein is a Russian asset. While this set of actions may superficially seem a bit sketchy; this problem really shouldn’t need to be addressed in the first place.

[–] Copernican 8 points 8 months ago

I think any 3rd party that can be used by Russia and China to harm candidates for US office will receive funding, favorable news from state media, etc. from Russia and China whether those 3rd party candidates know it or not.

[–] Carrolade -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Any actual evidence of this? Usually when we make this claim we have some evidence.

[–] frog_brawler 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cryophilia 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Linkerbaan -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

You'd need a million times less evidence to call Joe Biden an israeli plant but saying that is not allowed.

Calling Jill Stein a "Russian asset" is fine though. Liberals love projecting their own corruption on others.

[–] Carrolade 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can say whichever you want, this is the internet where people say shit all the time.

Just preferably bring evidence better than "person A is helping person B". In a complicated world that usually just means person A benefits somehow.

An asset or a plant is a stronger claim though, it implies control. While that's really fun when you're young and looking through all the conspiracy theories, it doesn't stand up well to adult level scrutiny, where details matter.

[–] Linkerbaan -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Carrolade 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, I am sure he is. Or at least was until he stopped the bomb shipments over Rafah. That does not imply espionage though, just a US President supporting a military ally in a genocide. For the 500th time in our history.

edit: I'll remind you how we treated our own Native Americans, incidentally, in our own dark past. Many of the few remaining, still to this day, live in crippling poverty. World is a complicated place.

[–] TokenBoomer 4 points 7 months ago

You said what I was thinking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Remember this?

Wasn’t that you saying you aren’t posting in here anymore? This doesn’t help your credibility at all, especially when you cast aspersions at others.

Of course, the amount of posts/comments you’ve had removed for misinformation doesn’t help much either…

Now, care to support your accusation that liberals are projecting corruption? What corruption specific to this conversation is being projected? And what liberals? Give up some names.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

STOP THE STEAL! STOP THE STEA...

Oh wait sorry

"Please verify the signatures that the Green party submitted/is submitting in order to gain ballot access."

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Never thought I'd live to see the day where I'd be accused of being a republican because I think we should follow the rules. I do think the democrats want to keep the Green Party off the ballot but I also question how they got 30,000 signatures for an election where they don't even have a candidate declared (it'll be Jill Stein, but still).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

The Republicans also just want to check Hillary's emails and find out what's beneath Pizza Hut. They are really concerned about it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Texas Republicans have been financing Green Party ballot registrations around the country for years and years.

Yea. You might wanna check those for accuracy.

[–] Linkerbaan -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Like the Republicans have been financing top Democrats you mean right? As the biggest AIPAC donors are Republicans which have the Democratic party on their payroll.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Dems only play dirty against actual leftists. When up against reactionaries, they sleep.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Stein is a Russian asset so I for one fully support this move to block her. It's not even sly. They tried this shit in 2016 and it helped Trump so they're just running back that same plan.

[–] PopOfAfrica 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wish we tried this hard to get Trump off the ballot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

People are. The problem is the courts got stacked and are now helping him out.

[–] Passerby6497 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

...did you miss the state that banned him and got overturned by trump's goons on the SCROTUS?

[–] PopOfAfrica 2 points 7 months ago

Now, What are we gonna do about that? Probably nothing'

[–] Viking_Hippie 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They tried this shit in 2016 and it helped Trump so they're just running back that same plan.

Equally true about the DNC trying harder to disenfranchise the left than they ever do to beat the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nice false equivalence.

But sure. If the left in the US exited and showed up to vote it could have taken over the DNC like the tea party did the GOP. I've voted Bernie every time I could. Others didn't. But none of that is relevant to a legitimate action of keeping Jill Stein from helping get Trump elected.

[–] Viking_Hippie 1 points 8 months ago

If the left in the US exited and showed up to vote it could have taken over the DNC like the tea party did the GOP

And you're accusing ME of a false equivalence?

The GOP openly embraced that AstroTurf movement, seeing as the people who sponsored it were some of the same people who already sponsored the GOP in general.

In contrast, the Left is, amongst other things, defined by NOT being beholden to billionaires, hectomillionaires and their corporations.

DNC isn't having that threat to their steady stream of legal bribes, so they fight the Left tooth and nail every election, including by breaking their own party rules while still enforcing said rules when it's to their own advantage.

[–] TokenBoomer 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’ve seen this one before, when the Russians ran Nader to help Bush: /s

Nader, had already been subject to an extraordinary — and extraordinarily underreported — campaign of litigious harassment at the hands of the Democratic Party. John Kerry told Nader he had 2,000 lawyers at his disposal and would do “everything within the law” to win. In Arizona, Nader opponents filed a 650-page challenge to his attempt to get on the ballot, forgetting social justice concerns long enough to complain that one of Nader’s petition-circulators was a felon. They demanded ten samples of Nader’s own signature, hired a forensic examiner to call others into question, and challenged residents of a homeless shelter. The Democratic state chairman, Jim Pederson, said outright, “Our first objective is to keep [Nader] off the ballot,” because “we think it distorts the entire election.” source

[–] Carrolade 13 points 8 months ago

An opposition party wanting to inspect your petition signatures is not dirty. That's just basic transparency.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

This is far more complicated than your reductive quip implies.

[–] Cryophilia 8 points 8 months ago

The greens are not "actual leftists", they're a Russian asset harvesting useful idiots to help Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Once again democrats already doing what Trump claims to want to do.