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[–] EleventhHour 85 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

This was bait. The Democrats knew this bill would not pass, now they’re gonna use it as campaign fodder all the way up to November. And, likely, beyond.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"How dare you make me look like a misogynistic monster by putting up a perfectly sensible proposal which my misogynistically monstrous views will then cause me to vote against and make me look bad"

[–] EleventhHour 76 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

They did it with the border bill too. The Democrats proposed a bill that gave the Republicans exactly what they wanted, and they turned it down. Made them look like goddamn idiots.

When the Democrats do stuff like this, I may not seem like much, but the Republican party is shattering, and these sorts of actions accelerate that. There is strategy to what the Democrats are doing.

[–] Viking_Hippie 12 points 5 months ago

The Democrats proposed a bill that gave the Republicans exactly what they wanted, and they turned it down. Made them look like goddamn idiots.

Also made the Dems look like heartless hypocrites for suggesting Republican style laws that demonize and abuse asylum seekers and other immigrants while doing nothing constructive about the problems they're pretending to address, though..

[–] someguy3 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And the more recent response to Biden's executive action on the border is "too little too late".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean this comes from the House led by GOP who have spent so much time in committee that they have past:

checks notes

64 laws, most related to renaming post offices.

As a comparison, the 117th Congress (the last one) which was led by Democrats passed 463 laws including the CHIPS law, the Inflation Reduction law, the Infrastructure bill...

In fact, the 118th is on track to be the least productive Congress in modern history. And it's not just because of all of the inquires that have gone nowhere the GOP have lead, though that has eaten about 60% of their time on the Hill. The GOP has dealt with massive infighting that prevents even themselves from getting things done.

"too little too late"

Man they could have centuries of time on their hands and wouldn't even do basic things like pass a budget. The GOP has demonstrated quite well that they don't have the ability to enact their platform. And mostly because they're too damn busy posing in front of cameras and trying to score sound bites. Like just the other day Comer was talking about how he'd like to arrest Fauci and the thing is, Comer has a degree in Agriculture and mostly majored in those aspects. He doesn't even have the functional knowledge to actually indict anyone, much less the ability to maintain the massive amount of litigation.

Like he can say that, but the odds of any kind of successful indictment is slim to none. I mean for fucks sake, he sits on the Oversight Committee ex officio, shit he likely doesn't even know what that means.

A large part of the modern GOP are people who are horrible at their job and have very little understanding of how Government works. MTG just a few weeks ago was talking about some sort of "law" and what it really was, was a regulatory hearing on review of rule making. Not even new rules or regulatory processes, just the usual self audit. Lady doesn't know the different between slip, law, bill, and rule. But she'll be the first one to open her mouth about who is and is not a doctor.

A lot of them are very poorly educated in how anything works. And they objectively demonstrate that lack of knowledge on a fairly regular basis. And they're pretty unabashed about it too.

So yeah, that "too little too late" that's some rich bull. You know my Grandfather used to say: "If you are ever worried about professional politicians, just you wait till the amateurs get here." He made that in reference to a Governor of Tennessee Ray Blanton, but fuck if it doesn't apply here.

[–] someguy3 14 points 5 months ago

The GOP has demonstrated quite well that they don’t have the ability to enact their platform.

Most of what they want to do is block progress, which is actually quite easy. That can be done with control of any one of the three of president, house of representatives, or senate - which they have had for 20 of the last 24 years.

[–] EleventhHour 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Despite the fact that it was, once again, exactly what they demanded he do.

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[–] someguy3 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bait implies tricking them into going for something they shouldn't. But the GOP should want this, everyone should want this. This was blatantly pulling the mask off. Let's see if anyone listens.

[–] EleventhHour 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

But the Democrats wanted to pull the mask off the Republicans, exposing them going into election season. That was the trick, hence the bait.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

But who thinks there is a mask?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Plaster it across every single political ad

[–] Ghostalmedia 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I fail to see how preventing the government from micromanaging your health, body, and bedroom is “government overreach.”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

We're getting really 1984 up in here.

[–] whotookkarl 4 points 5 months ago

Preserving freedoms is anti freedom according to the party of personal freedom.

[–] Pfeffy 26 points 5 months ago

I mean duh? If you told me there is a bill in the Senate protecting reproductive Rights, my very first thought and response would be Republicans will never let it pass.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

It's not too long before pulling out will be considered murder.

[–] CptEnder 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Looking at the thumbnail and wondered why women would take birth control backwards in the week... I'm slow. Lmao maybe I'm a good case study for why we need this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel like that whole diagram is the result of a long evolution of, what are all the possible ways that somebody can fuck this up and what’s literally everything possible we can do to prevent it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

UI programmers! Take notes!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I still haven't understood it

[–] Sam_Bass 8 points 5 months ago

It is all part of a forward pushing effort by the repuglicans main money donors to force more births and increase the numbers of corporate wage slaves

[–] shalafi 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Aight. I'm fine with this. Fine. But I'm going to need an excuse, anything at all will do, I'll take it.

"Nuh uh!", said Senate Republicans.

FFS, who is this to appeal to? I've met anti-abortion people, seen 'em. I've never talked to a human in life that was against all contraception, not even religious nuts.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is what happens when loyalty to the group starts overriding good outcomes and moral judgements of what's right and wrong.

Everyone knows it's the wrong answer, but to speak on behalf of something that's been defined as an enemy viewpoint is to yourself become an enemy. And since health care for women is now an enemy position, here we are.

Once you're on the train, it's very hard to get off. Even when everyone knows it's gone too far, even when real killing starts, most of the people who defined themselves in that manner won't say a word against it. Because of course what would happen to them, if they did?

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[–] blazera 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Life begins before conception

[–] Viking_Hippie 4 points 5 months ago

Life begins billions of years ago, actually. Of course, Republicans don't believe that either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Someone call a witcher.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Their priority is to control sex lives of other people instead of improving lives.

[–] Cyberflunk 1 points 5 months ago

Funny, mine just says Plex.

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