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Ever seen that episode of The Office where Jim gradually fills Dwight's phone handle with nickels, and then removes them all? Then Dwight hits himself in the face when he picks up the phone?
These people would be shooting over the top of anyone's heads. They're not hitting anything.
And how good is your marksmanship with the weights in the way,?
Don't these guns kick up anyway? Wouldn't you need to hold them down?
Well that's kinda my point. Even before you fire, if you weight the barrel like that then when you take it off you will naturally want to aim higher than necessary. By the time you add recoil, you aren't even close anymore.
One would assume this is just temporary resistance training so they can build muscles to keep the rifle in position, not marksmanship practice.
Right? Right??!?!
Or a joke photo being taken seriously.
But that would never happen to NCD.
The whole point of NCD is to take every post seriously. Its funnier that way.
Wait, this isn't a community of genuine defense experts?
Yes, yes it is. The best of the best of the best, sir!
With honors!
Something funny slick?
This guy, has no idea why he's here "the best of the best of the best!", "sir!"
Captain America over here
As long as this is treated as physical training and not actual marksman training I can see this being very useful. I remember going to the arcade once with those laser guns you hold up, all you can play for however many bucks, fuck my arms were sore.
I mean, just fill two buckets with water and stand holding them with your arms straight out if you want the same training results.
I used to really like the Silent Hill Arcade shooter. It was a fun themed spinoff. That and Time Crisis 3.
Why have them carry a gun or ruck at all, just have them hit the gym. It's not the same. Train like you fight (and a little bit more).
gymnastics – inverted iron cross
I remember going to the arcade once with those laser guns you hold up, all you can play for however many bucks, fuck my arms were sore.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1007641151?pid=889663
The Pole Cat Tall Bipod shooting system is a great shooting platform for kneeling or standing situations.
I imagine that arms getting tired might be part of the cost computation for all-you-can-shoot deals, though, so I dunno how well people tromping in the door with those would go over with arcade management.
In this case the payment system stopped working and things were free. They eventually caught on. Their solution for the last hour and half was kick everyone out and you could come back in, all you could play, for whatever dollars.
Hah! Fair enough.
While the weights here are impractical, wouldn't a weighted barrel work really well? If you're forced to engage your muscles against the weight of the barrel you'll most likely be extremely stable.
Heavy guns in general recoil less just due to the mass of the weapon.
There’s a pretty big downside though, in that you are now carrying a much heavier weapon with you at all times.
Maybe, but not weights like these ones. It would probably make recoil more controllable at the cost of making aiming much more difficult. Usually you want to have lightweight parts to make aiming easier, and using your muscles and body to absorb and counteract the recoil.
at the cost of making aiming much more difficult.
I don't see how this would make aiming more difficult, besides the weights blocking front sight
making barrel heavier puts center of mass of gun forward
You missed the joke but that's okay. Try aiming without sights
This is stormtrooper level training
Sort of, I'm thinking this is extreme dry fire training to "untrain" the natural reaction to push down on the weapon to counteract recoil.
A common way of doing this with automatic pistols is to place a coin on the end of the slide close to the front sight. With the pistol unloaded, squeeze the trigger till click without dropping the coin.
What it looks like they're doing here would be more punishing than dropping a coin when they instinctively push down.
i would bet that the weighted guns don’t fire
I'm sure the barrels love this.
Weight training make barrel strong 💪
I mean, this will come out shitty in text, but I like to think they'd use rubber ducks for shit like this.
Ah, these must be those famous chinese guns where the recoil pushes the barrel downwards!
There's actually a muzzle brake that users report is so effective that it does push the muzzle down. (More likely is that it's so neutral in terms of muzzle climb that users are pushing the gun down unintentionally.)
Aah yes, the proper amount of training. Looking down the sights at a solid mass of metal.
One question. What for?
US special forces have front heavy guns with thicker barrels, lights, lasers, quad rails etc.
And look at how well they do, the weight must be the secret!
