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When I left IT and changed careers, I became a tree surgeon for a while and then a wildlife ranger, which I stuck with for 20-odd years.
It has to be said that you need a particular motivation to work as a ranger though - at least in the UK. You certainly don't get into it for the money.
Yes, I've accepted the fact that whatever options there are will most likely be a downgrade in pay. Wildlife ranger work does sound nice, though. If it's one of those ranger jobs where you have to go live out in the woods for an extended period of time, then that might be rough. But patrolling the wilderness sounds like a nice change of pace from IT work.
I spent some time when most of what I was doing was leading volunteer groups and giving talks and tours etc, some years as the only permanent resident on what was effectively an island and quite a range in between. It would depend entirely on where you are, I think.
Either way, I had no regrets and wished I had made the change some time earlier.
Anonymous helper in a farm somewhere, cutting tomatoes 14h at day earning 5 dollars at hour. But meeting great people, know the farm owner son, make love with him, do a family in the farm, happy ending kind of.
Healthcare is a good field to go into, and there's lots of work in rural areas
I should add that there are programs to forgive student debt for rural doctors, nurses, and lawyers.
That's true that healthcare jobs are plentiful out in rural areas. I never thought of that. I'm not too sure how I would feel about having to go back to school, but it's a good option to consider.
I have a two year Associate Degree with a full Registered Nurse license because the Associate Degree contains all the same clinical hours as the Bachelor's, just fewer leadership and development, research, and "nursing theory" classes.
I'm biased, I love being a nurse even as stressful as it often is. I'm happy to answer questions, if you're interested.
Respiratory Therapy looks like another good healthcare career with reasonable training requirements.
Thanks for the info. Yeah, two year Associate Degree might not be too bad, if I really wanted to make the transition.
You could post (good old-fashioned) flyers around the most visible public places nearby (public library, grocery store, hardware/home center, church, etc.), advertising your IT skills.
Rural folks I know appreciate someone nearby who has even basic IT skills, saving them a trip into the city to a big box store that would charge them an arm and a leg to diagnose and fix the simplest issue.
If you charge less than they do and are conveniently closer, you could have a decent part-time source of income.
Not sure how rural you are, how tech-saavy your neighbors may be, or whether you're hoping to make a bigger shift career-wise, but it's an option that has worked pretty well in my rural area.
That's a good idea. I'm not the most proficient in terms of tech support, but I guess a lot of that stuff would be googling the issue.
What do you think is contributing to depression? Is it the nature of web development itself? Your employer? Being inside / at a computer all day? I am a software engineer living regionally (not quite rural, but not a city where the jobs are), so work remotely. I just try to spend a lot of time in my gardens and only work 4d/week. That + therapy has helped me a lot with my depression and anxiety over the years.
Definitely my current team is a huge contributor. My previous job was a government contracting job with basically no stress, but now I'm in banking, and the stress is off the charts. My team is also a bit mismanged, which doesn't help.
I think if I could find another team like my previous job with low stress, then I'd definitely be happy to continue being a web developer.
Yeah that makes sense. Fintech is stressful and often morally ambiguous at best IME. I’d extricate myself from that situation ASAP were I in your position.
IT positions in banking and law are generally stressful.
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It's absolutely not a job for everyone, but damn-near every 911 dispatch center in the country is always hiring.
It may or may not work well with you being depressed. You hear a lot of terrible, depressing things of course, but if your depression is all about your job it might feel good to do something that can make a difference in your community.
First: Dispatch pays shit.
Second: the PTSD is usually a bigger problem than the depression, since you're going to hear people die as you are trying to talk to them.
I work dispatch, that's why I suggested it, it's one of those jobs that's everywhere that no one ever thinks about.
Pay certainly could be better, but who doesn't think that about their job? Some agencies do better than others at compensating their dispatchers to be sure, the place I work does alright, I'm not struggling financially, I'm just not rolling in it. And you can't overlook the value of a solid health plan and pension and other benefits.
PTSD and burnout is a real concern of the job, but it doesn't hit everyone the same way. I've been here about 5 years, I was at my old job working in a warehouse about the same amount of time. If I'd stayed there much longer I'm pretty confident that I was heading for a mental breakdown within about a year. I was fed the fuck up with it, it was soul-crushing, mind-numbing work, and if you want to talk about being underpaid I could go on for days about how shit the pay was there and I was probably just about the highest paid guy in the warehouse after my manager. But with dispatch I still feel like I can stay at this job for another 20-30 years until I can retire, maybe that will change, a lot can certainly happen in a few decades, and I won't pretend that I haven't taken a handful of calls that will probably stick with me for the rest of my life, but the way my brain is wired and with the support systems I have in my life, I don't have a problem living with them.
But like I said, it's not a job for everyone, there's a lot of reasons that we're always hiring, some people can't hack it mentally/emotionally, some want better pay, or don't like the hours, some use it as a stepping stone to other careers, etc.
As far as pay goes, doing from web development to dispatch is (probably) going to be a pretty big step down in most cases. Going from warehouse to EMS dispatch is probably going to be largely a lateral move (although likely with better benefits, if you're working directly for a municipality).
As far as my own pay rate is concerned, I would be fine with the amount that I was paid if it was annually adjusted for inflation and cost of living. As it stands, I make less money--in terms of purchasing power--now than when I started five years ago.
For me, and of course YMMV, dispatch was a significant pay upgrade from the warehouse I was working in in addition to the benefits. The dispatch center I work at is actually one of the lowest paid in my immediate area, but they've done a pretty good job of giving us raises, I'm definitely in a better financial place than I was when I started here even with everything crazy that has happened with the economy over the last few years.
And at the end of the day, it's hard to put a dollar value on just not hating your life because of your job. I could barely call what I made there a living wage, and in truth it really wasn't, I needed 2 roommates to afford a shitty apartment. But if the roles were reversed, and the warehouse was the higher paying job I might still have made the move to dispatch and taken a pay cut and considered it worth the necessary lifestyle adjustments.
For me, even just the hours I work are worth a lot, I avoid a lot of traffic because our shifts don't line up with rush hour traffic, my commute takes me about a third of the time it used to despite working twice as far from home. I love working night shift (though I get thats not something that's for everyone) and with the schedule I work (we do 12 hour shifts, which means longer work days but more days off, which I can certainly manage sitting in a chair in the air conditioning as opposed to breaking my back unloading a shipping container that has been baking in the sun,) never having to work more than 3 days in a row unless I want to take overtime, having a 3-day weekend every other weekend, and having days off during the week to run errands is amazing. I actually struggle a bit to figure out how to use all of my PTO because I can just plan everything I need/want to do around my schedule.
That's a good one, thanks for the suggestion. You mentioned another contributing factor to my hypothetical career change too. I sometimes wonder what it would be like to work at some place that has a more direct impact on my community. My current job is more indirect, I would say.
Is it possible it is just the wrong jobs?
I've worked some web dev jobs that made me hate life and want to quit. I've since churned through many jobs and finally found gigs that I actually enjoy, that pay well, that give me ample time off and legit work-life balance.
I also live relatively rural, read: paid a nearby ISP to run fiber to my home.
Yes, it's a safe bet that it's just my current job. I was a lot happier at a previous job with a government contractor that was very low stress. I'm going to start applying for new dev jobs.
I'll most likely stay in the dev field because it's the path of least resistance for me, and because the job security most definitely shields me from a lot of new stressors I'm probably not even aware of. But I still wonder sometimes what it would be like to have a job outside like that one guy who said he became a wildlife ranger. Or to have a job where you solve physical problems with your hands, instead of abstract problems with your brain.
Solar or wind power are huge, growing industries.
Remote work, you can get internet almost anywhere.
