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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the great filter is the misuse of apostrophes?

[–] whaleross 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the great filter is crabs dragging others down to their level.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Even at loss of limb, those who escape are the 144000, sent to show others the way?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 49 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hell of a shower thought, Mr. Sagan.

[–] dogsnest 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can't say I'd ever get a shower erection with that thought. /tmi

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Not my proudest fap

[–] whaleross 9 points 5 months ago

Cleansing as a pretentious melancholic.

[–] foggy 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

The the DNA brick wall we've been climbing is exactly that.

You've reminded me of some of my favorite hip hop lyrics of all time. If you never heard Eyedea before he died (27 club, I think?), Eyedea had Eminem level potential. Fucking incredible lyricist. If this tickles your fancy, go peep the album First Born.

Eyedea & Abilities - Man vs Ape

Move!

There's no telling what I'ma do

I'm eighty-thousand years of natural selection comin through

You ain't got as much aggression, possessions, weapons

I'll be damned if I get outdone by the next man

If you're beliefs are different than mine, then we gonna fight

Who needs peace when you can profit from being right?

I hold picket signs outside abortion clinic doors

Take what I want with force

And my God could kill yours

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Involved with a species evolving so slowly

Genetically infantile, violent and holy

We think we're so smart but there's not much to know

Caveman is still alive behind those robot eyes

Fully controlled by ten thousand year old instincts

Hands on the war button, flinch and your world's extinct

This is technology for the barbarian

I see the future: the past, we'll be there again

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Remember, the atom bomb came from the same place as poetry

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Die dirty hippy commie scum, Christian, Muslim Buddhist, Jew

Democrat, factory-workin, college student you...

My nervous system don't take no bullshit

Been dominating since the day I touched the monolith

I only breed with sex-symbol worthy women

They stay at home and cook while I go out a make a living

Don't challenge my ego, don't step on my shoe

Otherwise the next wake that you attend might be for you

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Grindin' my teeth as I'm battling uphill

The fight against ape-hood is fate versus free will

We think we're advanced but there's nowhere to go

Mammals stay captive to animal actions

So slowly we climb up this DNA brick wall

Addicted to emptiness, anger and pitfalls

Desire for space, territory, or lust

We'll eventually turn this whole planet to dust

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There can be no peace when man is still a part of it

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Purpose, perseverance, wordless amoeba surface

To lead the first coherent paleolithic circus

Specific neuro-circuits link man and Neanderthal

However, recent bio-chemical imprints

conflict with primitive urges

It's full blown ontological warfare

Murdering memories in the future two million years

Peace is a word we often say,

But it can't exist as long as the ape is here to stay

[–] ilhamagh 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you have other song recommendations with larger than life topics like this ?

I don't listen to hip-hop but I like the theme of this one.

[–] foggy 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I recommend the album, Eyedea & Abilities - first born

The dive part 1 and 2 will blow your mind. And the song Read Wiped in Blue has some lyrics that are relevant today:

Another of his, A Murder of Memories, about war/PTSD.

[–] ilhamagh 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you !

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Eyedea & Abilities - Man vs Ape

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] Gigan 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the evolution of multicellular life is most likely to be the great filter, since it took the longest to develop on earth.

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[–] KISSmyOSFeddit 18 points 5 months ago

Maybe the great filter was the friends we made along the way?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's an "if" at all. I firmly believe that that's exactly it.

The same behaviours that we needed to evolve are harmful now that we've reached a potential "post-scarcity" stage.

To put it more bluntly, the drive to compete for resources in order to survive is what made us the dominant species. Now that post-scarcity is essentially upon us, our nature is to create artificial scarcity in order to satiate that drive for competition. And it will be the ultimate end of us.

[–] whaleross 4 points 5 months ago

These are pretty much the thoughts I had.

[–] spittingimage 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What if the great filter is our love of carbs?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Hey, carbs are awesome.

[–] whaleross 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Leave the flying spaghetti monster out of this.

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[–] paddirn 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I like the idea that the Great Filter is really just civilizations turning inward. Like they all get to a point where they realize that space travel is just really not viable and so they stop looking to explore the universe or find other life. Instead they turn to virtual worlds to prolong their existence with what resources they have available in their own star systems. Not even Dyson spheres or anything, they just go into digital hibernation and live out the rest of their lifetimes in a fabricated paradise for however long they can. Maybe they're able to use drugs/genetics/whatever to slow time down to a crawl where it feels like they live thousands of years within a normal lifespan.

For Outer Wilds fans, basically:

spoilerOwlks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Then we would start 'behavorial sink' and slowly decline in population. Someone else mentioned Calhoun and his rat utopia the other day and I looked it up. It seems like we are going through our version of behavioral sink.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Like uploads? If so, couldn't they have all this fun while slowly traveling the universe?

"We're sorry to interrupt everyone's simulation, but we're happy to remind you that you're a person on a spaceship and we just found something interesting!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then we better hurry the fuck up before we make it impossible to live on the planet.

[–] Weslee 15 points 5 months ago (9 children)

In the grand scale of the universe we aren't even a blip, any "permanent" damage we cause will be reversed over hundreds of thousands or millions of years after we've wiped ourselves out.

And even if there was some kind of damage that couldn't be reversed, the next cycle of life would just adapt to whatever the issue is

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I'm not really worried about the planet. I'm worried about us.

[–] dohpaz42 5 points 5 months ago

I mean the earth has already survived having the first moon crash into it, as well as a giant meteor that caused an ice age. We have t quite gotten to that level, yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's something people don't realize. We may be a scourge on the Earth, but we're still nowhere even near the top of the list of worst things to happen to this planet.

As the other reply brought up, Theia crashing into Earth. Flood basalt events. The Chicxulub impact.

We may be able to cause some real awful shit, but we still are nothing compared to what the forces of nature can produce. And just to clarify, I'm not saying this to in any way downplay the seriousness of climate change, or that we should do nothing about it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if this theory has a proper name but I have seen it multiple times.

If a species has the ability to push their technology to the point they could become a space faring species, that technology will destroy the civilization before it can get there

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That is basically The Great Filter theory the OP was referring to.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It may depend on the rate they get to that point. Add in a dense energy source that's suddenly available and the rise of tech may be lethal. Perhaps the lucky ones don't have something like petroleum so their species matures long before they ruin their world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Back up...dude with a 10th grade level understanding of biology and chemistry coming through with a question...

So carbon-based life forms can, under the right circumstances, decompose into long chains of hydrocarbons like Petroleum.

Does that mean silicon-based life forms under the right circumstances would break down into hydrosilicates like caulk?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Reminds me of my thoughts after reading "Why Buddhism is True" by Robert Wright. If you haven't read it before I highly recommend it.

[–] gedaliyah 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So we all just happily go back to living in forest?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] whaleross 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was a bad idea to get out of the oceans if you ask me.

[–] Alatain 5 points 5 months ago

Return to sea-monkee?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The thing is we could largely retain all our advances and live in a more fecund environment. A large portion of our pollution is unnecessary and tied to whatever you call this global economic system / social paradigm we've backed ourselves into. It's only either or between forest and urban blight because we've made it so

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't understand the question. What is a "great filter"?

No BS, seriously don't know and want to.

[–] okamiueru 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/UjtOGPJ0URM

This covers it pretty well.

If you want a very short version: a hypothetical eventuality in the technological advancement of intelligent life, as to limit their existence.

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