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(May 24, 2024 / JNS)

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi agreed to restore the flow of aid to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip during a telephone call with U.S. President Joe Biden on Friday.

Egypt halted U.N. aid deliveries into the southern city of Rafah after the Israeli military took control of the Gazan side of the Egypt-Gaza border. In Friday’s call, el-Sisi agreed to let the aid flow through Israel’s Kerem Shalom crossing near the Egyptian border.

“President Biden welcomed the commitment from President el-Sisi to permit the flow of U.N.-provided humanitarian assistance from Egypt through the Kerem Shalom crossing on a provisional basis for onward distribution throughout Gaza,” the White House stated in its readout of the call. “This will help save lives.”

The Egyptian readout of the call said that the deliveries would consist of “humanitarian aid and fuel” and would continue “temporarily until a legal mechanism is reached to reoperate the Rafah crossing from the Palestinian side.”

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If it's going through an Israeli checkpoint on the way, it will not reach Gazans. Guaranteed. Same shit happened with the stupid fucking pier. You cannot rely on the perpetrators of genocide to help ameliorate the genocide! This is nothing more than an attempt to soften Biden's image in regards to supporting this genocide. Only dopes will fall for it.

[–] FlowVoid 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

small amount of biscuits

And i knew it wasn't going to be a lot though the pier but didn't realize it was this low

American officials hope the pier at maximum capacity can bring the equivalent of 150 truckloads of aid to Gaza each day. That’s a fraction of the 600 truckloads of food, emergency nutritional treatments and other supplies that USAID says are needed each day to bring people in Gaza back from the start of famine and address the humanitarian crisis brought on by the seven-month-old Israel-Hamas war.

[–] FlowVoid 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, the US said from the beginning that the pier would not be able to supply Gaza by itself. That's why resuming supply from Egypt is significant.

Pre-invasion, only 500 trucks went into Gaza per day. If the US can provide 150, that's 30% of the pre-invasion total. It doesn't solve the problem, but it does ameliorate it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a lot more need than pre-invasion levels. There was local agriculture in Gaza, functional bakeries, a water pipeline, electricity, etc.

Now all of those things need to be trucked in instead.

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 1 month ago

Fair enough. I believe the estimated need is now 600 trucks, so the US can supply up to 25%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did you read the article, or just the headline?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The WFP had warned this week that the U.S. project could fail unless Israeli authorities gave clearances and cooperation for alternate land routes and better security

Cool cool cool. Totally better than actually getting Israel to let in aid, well done Biden

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read the article. Did you?

The U.S. Agency for International Development told The Associated Press that a total of 41 trucks loaded with aid from the more than $320 million pier have reached humanitarian organizations in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"The U.N. World Food Program said Wednesday that it has handed out in Gaza in recent days a “limited number” of high-energy biscuits that arrived from a U.S.-built pier"

-- Ridiculous

"Pentagon spokesman Maj. Gen. Patrick Ryder told reporters Tuesday that he did not believe any of the aid from the pier had yet reached people in Gaza. Sullivan said a day later that some aid had been delivered “specifically to the Palestinians who need it.”"

-- Sounds like the general was reprimanded after his first comment.

"American officials hope the pier at maximum capacity can bring the equivalent of 150 truckloads of aid to Gaza each day. That’s a fraction of the 600 truckloads of food, emergency nutritional treatments and other supplies that USAID says are needed each day"

--Even if this was working at max capacity, which it definitely isn't, it wouldn't be nearly enough.

"The WFP had warned this week that the U.S. project could fail unless Israeli authorities gave clearances and cooperation for alternate land routes and better security.

Humanitarian officials and the U.S. say the sea route is not a replacement for bringing aid through land crossings, and they have repeatedly called on Israel to allow a steady large flow of trucks through entry points and to ensure aid workers are safe from the Israeli military."

:/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So according to your logic, SOME aid but not enough to cover the COMPLETE need is “ridiculous”.

Is there any color in your world or is everything monochromatic?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is ridiculous is that a small number of energy biscuits have made it through. I helpfully broke the quotes and my responses to each section out. Read it again with that in mind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Black and white worldview confirmed. lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Wow you are so nuanced. Maybe you can explain why Biden has done nothing to stop Israel from massacring people in Palestine? What am I missing that I think it is repugnant to make half-assed gestures towards food aid, while on the other hand continuing to arm the aggressors, condemn any international attempts to prosecute, and order veto of any UN resolution meant to stop the genocide? lol

[–] FlowVoid 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So even according to your quotes, food is reaching Gazans. As of Thursday, 1.2 million pounds of aid have been delivered to the pier of which two thirds has been distributed to Gazans.

And even before the pier was built, the US said it could not supply Gaza by itself. The US is trying to ameliorate the problem, not solve it single-handedly. That's why it's important that Egypt agreed to open their crossing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course the US can't supply the need itself. Sending some energy biscuits that you hope Israel will allow through, is like offering a band aid to someone with a severed femoral artery. The idea that food aid is the solution to this crisis is itself very stupid, especially when the "lethal aid" keeps flowing to Israel, which they use to bomb refugee camps. You think there's no pleasing me because I'm not satisfied with the food aid. What I am concerned about is stopping the genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t think there’s Israeli citizens at this checkpoint to psychically block the aid. The IDF might not let it through, though.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And is Israel going to allow the aid in, and distribute it to Palestinians?

[–] Viking_Hippie 10 points 1 month ago

Nope. And Sisi knows it. That's the only reason why that awful dictator agreed to it in the first place.

He knows it won't sour his relationship with the fascist apartheid regime next door since it won't save any Palestinian lives, so it's pretty much just free brownie points for him and Biden.

[–] tsonfeir 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

B-B-But Biden does nothing?!

🙄

[–] Maalus 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's talk when the aid actually reaches the people that need it. And when the trucks comming in will be enough to help all who need it, rather than just a token amount.

[–] tsonfeir 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Average American who misunderstands presidential power limits.

[–] Maalus 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uh huh, try again. The truth is he only does token gestures, till they actually work out, you can't claim "he did it boys". Not after sending so much leathal aid to Israel.

[–] Cryophilia 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you want him to do? Send American troops to distribute the aid?

[–] Maalus 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, start with not sending weapons to Israel and use the shitload amount of soft power the US has to pressure them to sign a cease fire. Also, could probably be better received if he didn't repeatedly call himself a zionist and acted accordingly.

[–] Cryophilia 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

use the shitload amount of soft power the US has to pressure them to sign a cease fire

Already doing this, at least

[–] Maalus 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So far they parked two carriers right next to Israel to protect them. Where is the soft power being used on Israel?

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You've missed all the times Biden has called for a ceasefire, and all the reports about how Biden has been trying to restrain Netanyahu?

Who am I kidding, of course you did.

[–] Maalus 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And you have missed all the times he said "I am a zionist". Where is the aid then? Where is the ceasefire? Why are weapons still going to Israel?

[–] Cryophilia 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aid to Gaza.

The ceasefire is in the hands of Israel. Biden is not King of Israel, he can pressure but he can't force.

[–] Maalus 1 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Jfc you don't know what you are talking about. The pier is a publicity stunt and barely supplies anything, especially because it is built in the zone controlled by Israel. If they aren't letting in aid through their borders, they aren't letting it through a shitty pier. I know the situation on the ground from people actually there, you know it from a propaganda web article.

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[–] mlg 2 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Egypt signed away control of their border as part of their peace agreement with Israel lmao.

Sisi has no jurisdiction, and even if he did Israel already controls the crossing, meaning he'd have to setup a new one and send military power to keep it up.

Of course he's just a slimy [100 adjective long insult] who sucks [another 100 long adjective insult] so there's a 0% chance that'll ever happen.

I'm not even sure why Biden even bothered because everyone already knows this. Unless he thinks he can get Israel to comply somehow.

[–] Viking_Hippie 6 points 1 month ago

I'm not even sure why Biden even bothered because everyone already knows this.

Because a lot of people actually don't and will likely fall for this brazen PR stunt.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
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