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[–] [email protected] 79 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Note to everyone seeing this post on all and unfamiliar with transgender rights and terminology.

Please read the sidebar. Comments breaking any rules will be removed. Transphobia will be banned. Gatekepping will be banned. This community is supportive of those taking DIY hormone replacement therapy.

If you have questions about DIY HRT, otherwise known as HRT without a doctors prescription, please direct your inquiries to Google. This community is a safe space for transfeminine people.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] antidote101 75 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I believe there's somewhat of an internal rift between The Guardian UK and The Guardian US with the US publication being more progressive on Trans issues.

...of course people in the US still shouldn't talk to Journalists, as plenty of right-wing organisations pretend to be journalists in order to produce "gotcha" content and misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is new to me. I always viewed journos as standing on the side of truth and democracy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I mean NYT is conservative trash AFAIK, but I thought the Guardian knew better.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just start bulldozing them and only talk about DIY home projects. "OMG you should see our new deck. Steve wants to stain it but I really like the bare look."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

My mischievous side wants to do only one word answers, but my rational side knows they'd probably know how to twist it to fit their narrative

Q: What originally got you into DIY
A: Dave
Q: Dave?
A: Yes
Q: Who's Dave?
A: Nobody
Q: Would you please elavorate?
A: No
...
Q: So have you stopped grooming kids?
A: No... Yes! FUCK!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

my ass would be so passive aggressive about it's not even funny. I would completely derail it and talk about entirely irrelevant shit.

"DIY HRT? Yeah no i think linux is a pretty conceptually good system, has a couple issues, but such is life i suppose."

Or i would just say nothing, and stand there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Omg you know dave!? Can I get his autograph?

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Instructions unclear, underage teens have been secretly using Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine for their trans health care needs 👀

[–] Noodle07 47 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

confused republican noises

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[–] shadowSprite 67 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm also joining the group coming here from All, I've never heard of this, but just wanted to chime in and say I'm sorry some of you have to DYI your own healthcare because the system is failing you, please be safe and healthy.

[–] captainlezbian 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it’s an ancient tradition. Transitioning is like abortion in that people will find a way if desperate enough even if that way is life threatening.

I think maybe we need to acknowledge this more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Exactly. This is the only argument needed to support treatments and drugs. If a person wants to do it (a choice made with a sufficiently healthy mind), we should provide safety. Euthanasia, abortion, hormones, etc. We shouldn't care about further views.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm not trans, just a middle aged dude, but it gives me a bit of hope that the trans community has these sorts of options when it feels like half the world wants to deny you your preferred existence. Shitty that you have to, but glad that you can.

Fuck the bigots. Fuck the church. Fuck bad-faith politicians. Fuck the lies of conservatives. And fuck the people who can't or won't see the media doing the same thing to trans folk they did to gays mere decades ago.

Idiots, cruel intolerant, controlling idiots, the lot of them.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (4 children)

No, we should all waste their time giving testimony that is so ridiculous, but still believable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

yeah... i heard that people are using jenkem as a diy puberty blocker...

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[–] turbowafflz 10 points 7 months ago

'All the "alpha male" types release enough testosterone that transmasc people can actually just condense it out of the air.' And then start explaining in great detail your testosterone condensing setup

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I remember when the Guardian was the good newspaper that proudly published the Wikileaks documents, sad to see them turn into the Terf Stasi.

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[–] Sam_Bass 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Given the "entertainment" nature of journalism, its best not to talk to them about anything else they will try to spin it for ratings

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

“Don’t talk to journalists” in general is a good rule of thumb these days

[–] werefreeatlast 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

HRT or Hey as autocorrect would like really hard to put it, is "Hormonal Replacement Therapy". I'm not trans and I'm sure others would be wondering what it means. I love that someone mentioned Linux.

It's so depressing that we are loosing our freedoms to change to the gender we are inside alone with our freedoms of expression and for women, their reproductive rights. I can't believe the level of intrusive legislation happening. I just don't understand the end goal. I assume that the people making these stupid laws also live here and some must be queer like the rest of us in some way. So why do they insist in making the world harder to live in for the people they don't understand? 😞

Anyway, just some thoughts before going to sleep. I also do hope putin chokes on a pretzel while dropping without a parachute....no a actually with a parachute directly into the 🌞 sun. Would be the best morning 🌅🌄 ever if it happened.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So why do they insist in making the world harder to live in for the people they don’t understand? 😞

It is quite simple. It is part of a culture war that the right wages using resources provided by the rich. The one and only purpose is to take attention away from the extreme inequalities that exist in our capitalist societies. What they fear most is class war, so they try everything to generate other conflicts for the populace to engage in. It is pretty much the same with other topics, like abortion. Raising these conflicts costs them absolutely nothing, and even if they are part of a group that is affected, the rules do not apply to them anyway, only to us normos.

What frightens me is that, understanding this, some on the left (or those that claim to be left) think that the focus should be solely on class war, to the point of completely ignoring human rights problems. In Germany, that'd be Sarah Wagenknecht and her stupid new party, who thinks people fighting for Trans rights are "lifestyle leftists". Needless to say, I could not disagree more.

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[–] BabyVi 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

DIY saved my life, but the Guardian can fuck right off back to terf island.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m scrolling the All feed, so can anyone explain to me? What are DIYs, why do you need to not talk to journalists ?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This refers to DIY hormone replacement therapy. Purchasing hormones directly from suppliers when health care systems are not able or willing to provide them.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

I know this is a thing but I desperately want the trans community to spread a similar message about something made up, like:

DO NOT TALK TO FOX NEWS ABOUT PROJECT MANATEE. I REPEAT, FOX AND THEIR AFFILIATES ARE LOOKING TO DISPARAGE PROJECT MANATEE, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANYTHING.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

haha you just fell into our trap, get quoted

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely up to speed on the situation, but the UK recently reduced access to HRT. People are trying to make their own by sourcing hormones directly, and the guardian is supposedly contacting people to try and write a story about it.

The allegation is that the Guardian is writing an anti-trans hit piece, and you should not talk to them because they may out you or use your words to make trans people look bad.

[–] captainlezbian 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And the reasoning for the allegations are that the guardian is one of the major sources of media contributions to British transphobia

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah, in British politics transphobia is very much a bipartisan position shared with only rare exceptions by the right, the left, the far right and the far left. Shit sucks fr.

The BBC very notably has a very strong transphobic bias. For instance, on the day of Israel bombing the Iranian embassy I remember BBC radio 4 news spent more time talking about JK Rowling's tweets about the new Scottish hate speech laws that banned discrimination against trans people and then interviewed a prominent Scottish TERF to give a puffpiece interview about her TERF org and how great JK Rowling is (notably they didn't interview a single trans person) than they spent on the bombing of the embassy. Also a few days ago they gave a great deal of air time to the Cass Report which was basically made as a hitpiece trying to push for banning anyone under the age of 25 from transitioning (they then completely ignored all the criticism it received for it's awful scientific method).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (7 children)

“I feel like I want to ask about this, but doing so wouldn’t support the oppressed people this is likely supporting. Moreover, it’s not my place to ask, but the name sounds dangerous. Hormone therapy is worth consulting an endocrinologist, which frustrates me due to the sorry, stifled state of healthcare in the US, the time zone this meme came from. However, the alternative, an absence of hormone therapy, isn’t safe either and I don’t want to be labeled “rightoid journo scum” for asking a sincere question in an effort to keep my irl friends safe. So maybe I just look it up myself without interviewing lemmy? That’s the ticket.”

[–] Drivebyhaiku 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

May I suggest Abagail Thorn's video "I Emailed my Doctor 133 Times - A Crisis in the British Healthcare System" : https://youtu.be/v1eWIshUzr8?si=MLG5nLhD2GrXS07v

She mentions trans DIY and moreso outlines the systemic issues of oppression which have lead many to take their own healthcare into their own hands due to failures and bottlenecking of trans care.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

There are perfectly good reasons to be concerned about people medicating themselves with off label medication, or medication that have been sourced independently of trained healthcare providers.

However, just like when any demographic begins self medicating it is due to a failure in the public health sector. As a pediatric healthcare provider it's infuriating to see politicians once again attempt to make healthcare their business.

They have no idea how providers assess their patients health, so something like total outcome assessments don't mean anything to them. When providers are prescribing hormone therapy to their patients , they are weighting some minimal potential side effects against very permanent things like suicide.

The big concern when politicians ban certain types of healthcare , is there's always a shady character willing to take advantage of the people seeking that care illicitly. Of course there will be people providing these medications who truly want to help people, but they are usually eventually going to be a minority.

[–] captainlezbian 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Less safe than prescribed, far more safe than none. Most who do it will have no issue unfortunately even idiots can turn out to be trans.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i was a little confused, until i realized that it was home grown HRT (not literally i know, i just like phrasing things weirdly.)

took me a second. We certainly live in a time to be alive.

[–] Carbonizer 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What, you're saying you don't grow your own estrogen in a little plot of land in the back yard? You're missing out!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

They've posted articles against banning transgender conversion therapy, their chief lead writer is an outspoken TERF, they've posted articles for years now calling trans women threats to cisgender lesbians, and many more examples than that.

The article you linked does indeed seem to be a relatively trans supportive article. The guardian is internally divided on issues of transgender rights and acceptance, and occasionally trans positive articles are published there. The organization is not trustworthy, however, and has been actively hostile to trans rights, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

us guardian tends to be slightly better but not by much. uk guardian is full blown fascist.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

generally don't talk to the guardian about anything unless you need extra kindling for a fire

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