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[-] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago

Good on this man. Also

Police are now investigating how and why Cauchi, who is from the state of Queensland, committed such violence.

Gee, five of the six people he killed were women, and his father said, "He wanted a girlfriend and he has no social skills and he was frustrated out of his brain," but it's such a mystery, I guess we'll never know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Dudes will literally murder people instead of going to therapy.

[-] FenrirIII 11 points 1 month ago

Knife is cheaper than therapy

[-] ours 4 points 1 month ago

Youtube/Twitter won't push him to get help. They pushed him toxic bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

And he was a mentally ill schizophrenic...

[-] PoliticalAgitator 13 points 1 month ago

So are millions of people who have never stabbed anyone.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah... just saying that might have something to do with it. Or is it to your mind completely irrelevant...?

[-] PoliticalAgitator 15 points 1 month ago

It genuinely could be completely irrelevant. Was he suffering a psychotic episode during the attack?

By saying "he stabbed people because he's schizophrenic", you're grouping millions of innocent people in with a murderer in a way that is no more fair than the far-right scum who immediately say "I bet he's a Muslim".

Not only does that discourage people from seeking help and turn them into pariahs, it contributes functionally nothing to our understanding of why this happened because not all mentally ill people are violent and not all violent people are mentally ill.

[-] Hazor 10 points 1 month ago

May or may not be relevant. Statistically, people with illnesses like schizophrenia are no more likely to commit violent crimes than the general population (but are more likely to be victims of violent crimes). There are documented cases of people with schizophrenia killing or commiting other violent acts in response to delusions, but it's usually in an act that they perceive as self-defense rather than being driven by malice or desire to harm. I.e., it's generally more like "I killed my dad because he was going to kill me" rather than "I went out and murdered some random women because no women like me."

[-] ABCDE 6 points 1 month ago
[-] PoliticalAgitator 1 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago

It was his knife

[-] whoreticulture -1 points 1 month ago

And there are also millions of people who have never had a gf, who have never stabbed anyone.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Its kinda crazy to me how someone can stab 18 people before someone is able to stop them. Were all the victims alone with nobody close to stop the suspect? I probably would chicken out aswell in a situation where im not close, but if somebody gets stabbed right next to me, there is nothing to do but fight is there?

[-] khannie 62 points 1 month ago

Stopping someone with a knife is very difficult.

In my youth I used to fight Muay Thai professionally and did so for about ten years. I would be very confident taking on a random person in fisticuffs but I would rank my chances against someone with a knife very, very poorly.

Knives give an obvious reach advantage. Also just one nasty slice or one well placed stab and you're fucked where generally most people will take a few well placed strikes to stop. The odds just aren't in your favour.

Basically the safest thing to do against someone with a knife is run for your life or get your hands on a weapon that's longer than the knife if you can't run.

[-] ABCDE 26 points 1 month ago

This is very sobering and decent advice.

[-] Rekhyt 21 points 1 month ago

When I was practicing jujitsu, our instructors were pretty unanimous that they would rather be robbed by someone with a gun than with a knife. Not that your odds are great against any weapons, but a gun only has one dangerous bit. The first time I was learning to disarm someone armed with a knife I was told "If you fight someone with a knife, you're going to get cut, no question."

[-] ours 22 points 1 month ago

Without training most people either freeze or freek out.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

In the time I spend figuring out what happened, I'm probably also getting stabbed. If not, I'd be wondering if it was targetted (and therefore I'm safe) as I'm running away, but I haven't planned an escape route yet, so I'm just as likely to crash into an obstacle as I am to run away.

[-] tourist 15 points 1 month ago

Were all the victims alone with nobody close to stop the suspect?

Wikipedia says the perpetrator arrived at 3:20 pm and police only started getting phone calls closer to 4pm, so that seems to be the case.

Apparently a number of people in the shopping centre were unaware anything was happening until police shot the guy.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

That makes a lot more sense then. This is no laughing matter but for the lack of a better example he was basically on a stealth mission then, quickly and silently killing people to maximise the damage he could do.

[-] Maalus 6 points 1 month ago

Except he doesn't need to do that. Knives are dangerous. It's not like you can "rush the guy" with three people and "just take his knife". This isn't a movie. There are tests on youtube of martial artists trying to take a "knife" from a kid (knife = marker, the martial artists wears a shirt). They always end the same way - a 12yo stabbing the biggest dude you have seen to "death". There are always cut tendons that disable arms, legs. There are always stabs to the kidney, to the liver, or going through important arteries. Knives are fucking scary dude.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, i didnt say he would have been stopped without harming the person but in a big crowd of people you will find someone who is willing to sacrifice themselves much faster than 40 minutes.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Not a whole bunch you can do without some kind of polearm or range weapon. At most you can try stabbing him back if you happen to have a knife, but you'll probably both bleed out. More than likely some of those 18 people who were attacked were likely hurt trying to help.

Idk if a liveleaks equivalent still exists, but back in the day you could see the results of unarmed people trying to disarm someone with a knife. It's usually not pretty even if it's a couple people working together.

I think the poles that allow you to pin someone down are prob going to be more common place in places like the UK or Australia .

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Mancatchers, and they need to be more common everywhere!!

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