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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If your backup can be reached by a ransomware, it's not a backup.

[–] Orbituary 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to 90% of Veeam deployments.

[–] IHawkMike -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why name drop Veeam as if they're part of the problem?

They at least have good options to protect backups from ransomware with Linux hardened repos and immutable object storage.

[–] Orbituary 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because Veeam can be good, but it's only as good as the user pays for. I do ransomware recovery and incident response management for a living. More often than not, Veeam is implemented poorly and does not do what the customer thinks they paid for.

[–] IHawkMike -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I still fail to see how that's the product's fault.

Is there some ransomware-proof backup solution that you find most people do set up correctly?

[–] Orbituary 2 points 8 months ago

It's not specifically fault of the product. However, in my experience in this field, the only time client backups are encrypted is due to a false sense of security due to negligence and ignorance.

Veeam should not be configured by an inexperienced or underfunded tech staff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Tape, probably /s

[–] tinyVoltron 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The joke is on them. I don't back up anything.

[–] Quetzalcutlass 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Production is for testing and for data archiving. Think of the money we'll save!

[–] Boozilla 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stories like this make me want to retire early. Most bosses just aren't willing to pay for sufficient cybersecurity.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

My boss encrypts nothing and leaves all of the machines switched on overnight, every night.

We got burgled once and someone made off with some postcards and £5 in loose change, overlooking access to a vast trove of customers highly exposing personal, financial, medical and legal documents that has never been purged for over a decade.

He didn't even change anything afterwards!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, the common thief isn't into that sort of burglary. They're looking for something they can pawn or use themselves

[–] T156 6 points 8 months ago

Especially something that can be anonymised and moved quickly. For all they know, the computers are heavy/locked down, and may be tracked.

[–] Boozilla 4 points 8 months ago

Is your boss Denholm Reynholm?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] arcosenautic 4 points 8 months ago

They'll never encrypt my 2000 DVDs!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What methods are they using to locate the backups?

[–] Tygr 6 points 8 months ago

Come attack mine. It’s kept off my property on a hard drive disconnected from everything. Update it every 6 months.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

looks at stack of back up hard drives physically unplugged on the shelf

k.