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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

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Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago

Oh look at that, the thing everyone suspected happened happened.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A cop shooting someone who is following directions should be premeditated murder.

[–] Zron 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But then how will they play Simon says?

Simon Says put your hands up

Different Simon says get on the ground

Third Simon says drop the gun, wait do they mean the phone?

Oops, you listened to the wrong Simon, time to get 37 new holes in your body.

[–] Sakychu 28 points 3 months ago

Or an acorn drops on the car..

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago

At this point, it should be justifiable homicide to shoot police on sight. If I was on a jury, I'd never convict if the only victim was a cop.

[–] Illuminostro 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Police in the US exist solely to protect the rich, and their property. Period. Do not expect them to help you if you are not rich.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

also true for any other nation, one needs only to look at the role of police in suppressing dissent (see for eg the current police response to anti-israel protests in germany)

[–] Mirshe 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nope, they exist to protect THEMSELVES. A lot of their training centers around an "us vs them" mentality here in the US - they are taught that ANYONE who is not a police officer is willing to kill them at the drop of a hat, and they must do the killing before they are killed. There are seminars that teach this mentality, very well-attended by police.

They might have protected the rich at one point, but now the only people they are truly taught to protect is themselves and other cops. Everyone else is a potential combatant and should be treated as such.

[–] Illuminostro 2 points 3 months ago

Sure thing. That's why the people they continually murder with impunity are almost always black. Don't bother responding, I won't see it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

This shit has got to change.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Until it is routine that police are routinely held accountable for unreasonable actions, this will not change.

It is also telling that there are many in power that are against unions except for the police unions which constantly shield these officers from even going to trial for things a regular citizen would be.

[–] Tolstoshev 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."

[–] Zoomboingding 3 points 3 months ago

Calm down Arthas

[–] Stamau123 1 points 3 months ago

Direct video link https://youtu.be/ryoeQpkQlA4?si=Oogw-8R5ckoS5Wcc

Is there even a cease fire protocol in their handbook, or is it just to limply say 'stop' as a conga line unloads a crossfire wall into someone's backside?