I don't care whether they remove it or make it permanent so long as they just fucking pick one and stick to it.
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Fucking do it already, damn!
Yeah, I live in Canada, and our local government passed a law in 2018 saying we would go to permanent daylight time, but then backed down because the west coast of USA wouldn't do it too.
This truly is the dumbest timeline.
Omg, please for the love of everything, get rid of the time change.
I don't care which way they pick, just get rid of it. It's absolutely useless.
California, Oregon and Washington has all passed laws to do it, like 5 years ago, but it keep getting stalled. Should happen in like 10 years.
They keep getting stalled because they proposed bills to remain on DST instead of not participating. To remain on DST requires US Congressional approval and the bills were ignored and were never brought up to vote.
Washington is looking at putting forth another bill to stop participating in DST altogether since that only needs to pass the state legislators and Governor sign-off.
I'd prefer to stay on DST permanently, especially on the summer solstice where the sun sets super late and you can enjoy summer. In the end, I just want to stop dealing with the fuckery of DST.
Probably because they tried it in the 70s and everyone hated it so much the switched back.
Compromise and make DST permanent but 30 minutes ahead.
Please not a .5 difference lol. Add the hour or take it away, but not the .5 please.
Ok, let's compromise. Half the year we can add the half hour and half the year we take it away. For the farmers or something
You devil, you.
Even better, nobody likes getting an hour less sleep but everyone likes getting an extra hour. Just move the clocks back one hour each year!
Or better yet, adopt the 23 hour day.
Be thankful you're not living in Nepal - they use UTC+5:45
So we can be 8 hours difference from India instead of 8 and a half.
Jesus Christ a Republican I agree with, what year is it?!
“As funny as this sounds, several years ago, I was walking in a Veterans Day parade, and a veteran … that was watching the parade, an older gentleman, gets up from his lawn chair – he actually walks into the parade route, shook my hand and said: ‘Before I die, would you end daylight savings time?’” Lankford recounted.
“He said: ‘I hate it. I’m in my 80s. I want you to get rid of daylight savings time before I die.’”
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Lankford’s bill would eliminate the time change by making daylight savings time apply year-round in the US.
So basically Lankford is bragging that he wants to do exactly the opposite of this (probably fictional) constituent actually wants. They don't grow 'em too smart in Oklahoma.
End or make permanent, the effect is basically the same in terms of convenience.
Standard time is better for health (and makes more sense from a practical standpoint)
Any arguments about sunlight, etc, are all nonsense because all you have to do is change your schedule if you insist on that
Fair. I just meant that most people are upset at the frequent changing, not the pros and cons of each option.
Standard time in which time zone? Since each zone is (typically) one hour off from the one next to it, then the people in the timezone to the east of yours are essentially on daylight time relative to you.
I could see an argument that sunlight is involved since sunrise times vary by latitude and longitude, but I’m told sunlight arguments are nonsense…
I’ve seen this take a few times now and it just doesn’t make sense to me. Either sunlight matters or it does not, and if it does, time zones seem too broad to adequately match sun positions. (E.g sunrise can be an hour apart on each side of a time zone)
Standard time = 12:00 at local solar noon (usually in the center of the zone)
We need sunlight in the morning more than in the evening. This is why DST in winters is terrible if people would stick to current schedules.
Slowly moving schedules and keeping standard time would be better if people care about evening sunlight. Or even better, move to 6 hour workdays and give everybody more sunlight both in the morning and evening!
That still puts the fringes of a timezone possibly 30 minutes off from the ideal, and that is only the east/west direction. Places further from the equator are more susceptible to seasonal light changes.
Really I think time zones themselves are the problem. Prior to that each locality could adopt a time that worked best for them (horrible for trains and probably not compatible with modern communications tech, but easier on the people.) DST is a problematic patch on a problematic system.
Personally I’d like to see UTC adopted more broadly, at least for travel. Flying to NYC to LA takes 6.5 hours but you gain three hours due to time changes making it effectively 3.5 hours. Whereas flying back takes 5.5 hours but loses 3 to make it 8.5 hours. While I understand that intellectually, I find it hard to grasp intuitively. Just give me UTC and a relative time. Say 1900 (noon) or 1600 (mid morning)
It would also help with people living on either side of a timezone. Just say let’s meet at the restaurant at 500 instead of having to specify a timezone. Doubly so for coordinating online meetings with people around the country.
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Republicans LOVE to use vets as a prop when it's convenient.
They'll also stab vets in the back if they're convinced doing so would own a lib or two - see: republicans block PACT act, denying healthcare to veterans in an effort to spite the blue team.
I'd never vote for him, but damn I do respect Langford. The guy has zero fucks going against his own party.
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