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[–] captain_oni 92 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Multi-account containers + tab groups would make Firefox the perfect browser for me, and I wouldn't be able to use anything else.

[–] lawrence 23 points 8 months ago

Multi-account containers are almost indispensable for developers. As for tab groups, I am currently using an add-on to manage them, but having a native feature would be very cool.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

SimpleTabGroups and the ability to place pinned addons in any area of the browser UI already gives you that

https://tux.social/@Rhababerbarbar/112077769187609417

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[–] RainfallSonata 42 points 8 months ago

It's about tf time.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

19 plugin authors looking for a new project now

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Finally. Have made the switch over to Firefox a few months ago and this almost made me switch back. I swap context a lot at work / home so being able to group (and minimize said group) tabs helps a lot.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The Multi-Account Containers extension is great for this. Each container keeps its own context, so you can be logged in to the same service twice (or more) in tabs in one window. Can set it up so that some sites will always use a certain container, or that sites in a container will always use a proxy. That is EXTREMELY useful to me.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Helpful, but not what I'm looking for personally. I want to be logged into the same account, just have groups of tabs related to different tasks I'm working on. Could be documentation for various frameworks or tooling related to whichever language I'm working on. Chrome had this and it worked great.

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[–] deafboy 9 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Firefox has profiles, so you can further separate your work browsing from personal browsing. Each profile acts like a separate instance with it's own history, bookmarks, addons, everything...

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

🎶You put the feature in, you take the feature out, you put the feature in and shake it all about. 🎶

I've been using the Panorama Tab Groups add-on for years, which (as I recall) is pretty similar to the native stuff they inexplicably removed back in the day. It's currently unmaintained and a little janky in spots but perfectly usable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I use Simple Tab Groups personally. Been working for years. Might be overkill for some though.

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[–] postmateDumbass 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure this existed on desktop firefox somewhere around 2005.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (20 children)

I never really found a use for this. Do people really need so many tabs open they have to sort them?

[–] [email protected] 90 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Just did a rough estimate and I have approximately 200 tabs currently open in Firefox on my work laptop.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of those which were opened more than 1 hour ago, how many have you used in the last hour, would you suppose?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In the last hour? I just started work an hour ago, so like 4.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

So the other 196 are sort of, things you're not working on, but haven't really done with, and might need again?

I think most people use some combination of notes, bookmarks, history, and search to manage this.

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[–] Shady_Shiroe 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I look up a lot of things and sometimes one page doesn't fully answer it so you need to do extra research, then you end up 40 tabs deep in the history of it and it all ties back to each other.

Also programming, that also requires a crap load of tabs.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I think I have five browser containers across three devices with dozens of tabs on each. I don't sort them. Autocomplete from the omnibox usually gives an option to jump to the tab I need.

[–] lawrence 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I usually always have between 20 and 40 tabs open, but I’ve seen a few people in forums complaining that some add-ons would crash because those individuals had hundreds or even over a thousand tabs open simultaneously.

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[–] londos 15 points 8 months ago

Didn't they use to have this years ago? And then removed it?

[–] laverabe 14 points 8 months ago (12 children)

This is a good thing, but just as a pet peave - why do people keep so many tabs open on desktop web browsers? Every new tab uses more memory. Computers were not designed to have 100s of tabs open. There is no way anyone actually actively uses 100 tabs, and I see people all the time with so many tabs you can hardly even see what is there. There is a thing called bookmarks and folders for storing commonly visited sites on a computers hard disk rather than temporary RAM...

But I do think it is good firefox is adding the capability, as grouping can be useful if done right in moderation. But it's just kind of funny the person asking for the feature admits to having huge amounts of tabs open.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

At least for me, I have ADHD—if it's out of sight (i.e. another bookmark in one of the hundreds of folders I have), it ceases to exist, no matter how important or interesting it is.

I have 6 virtual desktops for current projects, with all of the tabs (and other applications) for each project on a desktop, and with a Firefox window for each "topic" within that project. I go through and close out old windows periodically (i.e. when I need to free up desktops), saving anything I might want to refer back to with the Tab Stash plugin. Importantly, I also have the Auto-Discard Tabs plugin so they aren't using RAM until I need them again.

It might seem messy, but it's what works best for my brain. I do at least try to not have more than 12 tabs per window. On rare occasions I'm even successful! 🙃

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

pretty sure if you don't visit a tab for a while or reopen your browser with the "keep previous tabs" setting thingy on, those tabs are not all loaded in memory. even if I have 100 tabs open, most of them take up negligible space in ram and only load in once I click on it. also I'm lazy and creating/deleting bookmarks is more work than closing/opening tabs.

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[–] herrwoland 9 points 8 months ago

Those are my emotional support tabs, ok? yes all 22 of them.

[–] Treczoks 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I, to my daughter: "For (this and that reason), you have to reboot your laptop." Daughter: "But then I have to close the browser!!!" - she basically uses hundreds of browser tabs as temporary bookmarks, having pages open for weeks occasionally. Having to close down the browser is a panic-inducing thing for her...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Does she have ADHD by any chance? That's a very consistent bit of behavior with myself and my ADHD homies.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

My excuse would be ADHD, I constantly lose track of what I'm focusing on and when I do focus on something I want to explore every part of it, that means exploring every path/solution/fact etc about it, then it's a I want to have this open because I will need in the future like tomorrow or I want to explore it more later so I don't want to bookmark it because I will lose my thought process, but time goes on and I will focus on something else and the cycle repeat. I find it very hard to just close them because I keep thinking, I will need it soon but soon never comes or when it does I already closed it and now I'm blaming myself I didn't have it open. It's a silly issue to have but it's how my brain works.

[–] HerrBeter 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] RawrGuthlaf 7 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately, the way many companies are set up these days, they require employees to use multiple different web applications to do their job. And if you're a developer, you need many different tabs for testing scenarios.

[–] postmateDumbass 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A tab may ascend to a bookmark once it has been verified good and/or useful.

Right now it is TBD, i came across it while looking at/for something and will keep going down that path, but want to take that tab page in in the future.

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[–] _number8_ 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i started using tree style tabs which was absolutely life changing. best computer memory i've had in years, it's a far more logical and space-friendly way to keep lots of tabs open and still be able to read the titles. i feel like specifically grouping adds too much overhead - i have to think about which group to put each into, and think (even a little bit) about where to find it later

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I love the way the Tree is automatically created. Having the ability to rename the root on the occasion where it’s not intuitive, would be perfect.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Perfect timing as I just recently switched back to FF from Chrome and Safari and I freaking need this.

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[–] systemglitch 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

About. Fucking. Time.

An option for an additional tab row would be nice as well. I'm not going to use the dev version to get that working (the only way to do so right now with an add-on)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Surely they just integrate tab tree. I've used it for years and feel lost without it. It's a very clear way of showing relationships between tabs.

[–] 1050053 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'd rather see the kind of tab organization found in Arc browser, but let's take this a decade at a time.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Been waiting for this. The tab group extension didn't work well for me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

This is actually great. I hope it makes it to Firefox Android as well.

I don't actually have a use for it. But my partner is a huge tab group user on mobile, so I can't switch her off of Chrome. If this launches on Firefox Android she would probably switch. It would be great for privacy and browser diversity.

[–] small44 5 points 8 months ago

About time. Vivaldi has it for ages

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