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[–] gAlienLifeform 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Headline doesn't match what's in the article

This year's report said: "TikTok accounts run by a [Chinese] propaganda arm reportedly targeted candidates from both political parties during the U.S. midterm election cycle in 2022."

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It warned that China's government may "attempt to influence the U.S. elections in 2024 at some level because of its desire to sideline critics of China and magnify U.S. societal divisions."

e; italicization added

[–] Boddhisatva 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you objecting the lack of the word "reportedly" in OPs headline because it seems accurate to me otherwise?

[–] gAlienLifeform 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The report says (I'm paraphrasing), "There have been claims China has used TikTok to influence elections. We conclude that's possible." It doesn't say they did do it, it says they could do it, but the headline says they did do it.

[–] Boddhisatva 1 points 8 months ago

No need to paraphrase, here's the quote.

China is demonstrating a higher degree of sophistication in its influence activity, including experimenting with generative AI. TikTok accounts run by a PRC propaganda arm reportedly targeted candidates from both political parties during the U.S. midterm election cycle in 2022.

This clearly says that United States intelligence has reports that TikTok accounts run by the Chinese government were used to attempt to influence 2022 elections in the USA. Is that not what the headline says?

Use of the word "Reportedly", in the context of this threat assessment, means that the agency has evaluated the reports, and while they have not confirmed them, they could not be dismissed either and were found them compelling enough to be included in the assessment. They are not suggesting here that some guy on the internet made the claim and there's no other support for it.

[–] rayyy 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Adversary countries are always looking for ways to de-stabilize the US

[–] agitatedpotato 5 points 8 months ago

Allys too, we made zucc testify to congress before doing nothing about it.

[–] CaptainSpaceman 4 points 8 months ago

US does it too, its a game all the major players play

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What does China’s government even want the U.S. election result to be? Putin and Netanyahu obviously want Republicans to win. NATO countries (Hungary aside, I guess) presumably prefer Democrats over MAGA Republicans (which I guess is all of them now).

I’m not really clear on what China under Xi would want. There’s a massive trade relationship that goes well beyond TikTok, EVs, and Nvidia chips. America being dysfunctional and chaotic doesn’t actually benefit China.

[–] chakan2 2 points 8 months ago

America being dysfunctional and chaotic doesn’t actually benefit China.

It will when they take Taiwan in '25 or '26. Trump, being the idiot he is would probably let them take it as long as they send him some free gold shoes.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's better to get the fascists well controlled before they do a genocide, so obviously Russia and China will support MAGAs, they don't want to fight fascism on another front than Ukraine.

I'm not saying Democrats are not fascists, what I'm saying it's they will go for the most "friendly" fascists for their interests.

[–] Rapidcreek -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trump vows massive tariffs that could shrink US-China trade to practically nothing — and Biden has new restrictions ready to roll before election day. Either way they're screwed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

technically every social media site can and will be used to affect elections in some way.

water is wet.

this is despite facebook and regulators turning a blind eye and downplaying privacy concerns for the last 20 years.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect 0 points 8 months ago

Isn't what the US it's doing with Meta, YouTube, Twitter and Reddit?