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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 80 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I mean, they did.

Then the Israelis bombed the trucks and the hungry population surround them.

Multiple times.

It's literally on the news?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

No mate they keep getting turned away. Here's one example:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68486248

and there was another convoy that Israel blocked because it had "prohibited items", then it was searched and found to be ok but it was still denied entry because "fuck you" i guess. I can't find the link atm but it's out there.

[–] Linkerbaan 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

If the truck that drives through a gate gets shot by the IDF then a truck that drives off a boat can also get shot by the IDF

And sadly most of the trucks are not getting through the border to be bombed by israel

Hundreds of truckloads of aid for Gaza stuck as more lives lost to malnutrition, some aid organizations say

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The funniest part of that article is right at the top:

Israel has denied accusations it is preventing aid from entering Gaza.

"If there were an Oscar for best theatrical performance by a country, Israel would win every year. It's a country based on theater. It's a lunatic state - completely insane."

Norman Finkelstein

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

[–] RedditWanderer 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (17 children)

In the classic capitalist way, the solution is always "more". So the plan is likely to send more food, so Israel can keep bombing the shit out of it, some will make it, and enormous profits will be generated in the process.

We did it Patrick. We saved Palestine.

[–] Noodle07 5 points 9 months ago

Ship corn, IDF bombs it, you now have popcorn for Palestinians, checkmate Israel

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[–] givesomefucks 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's gonna take two months to build the pier.

Countless will starve to death by then, and it seems like a forgone conclusion Israel is going to claim it's not safe to let Gaza control it.

They'll seize the port, and a stretch of land connecting it to Israel.

If Biden really wanted to do something now, he'd send US military with the aid trucks.

It's the only way to prevent Israel from attacking the aid

[–] jordanlund 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

We aren't going to engage in a military operation AGAINST Israel. We SHOULD, but we never will.

[–] givesomefucks 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (28 children)

What?

American military escorting American aid isn't a military action against Israel

Israel claims they can't let aid trucks in because Hamas will steal it.

American escort means Israel can't use that excuse, and if Israel attacks it, they'd be attacking the American military.

That isn't a military action against Israel in any way shape and form.

[–] jordanlund 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The argument for escorting aid in is because Israel will attack it... So what is the logical outcome of Israel attacking a US guarded convoy?

We are not going to put our people in that situation.

[–] givesomefucks 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That still wouldn't be a military action against Israel, and no American troops would be in Israel territory.

What you're saying is that Israel would view preventing their genocide against Palestinians as an attack on them and then be "forced" to attack the US troops...

Israel would have to decide if they want to attack US military members to stop aid.

I'm not talking about hiding one soldier in a crate for a "gotcha". I mean a loud and proud military escort of aid. Something that is 100% normal regardless of it's a war zone or not.

I've spent 6 months of my life doing exactly this, lots more doing other stuff in the military.

I know what I'm talking about.

Not to mention, by your logic that would make Bidens plan to build a single pier over two months a military action as well...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Technically they don't have to finish the pier, we have vehicles made to transport marines and even tanks from sea to land. Even without our amphibious units, in May 2023 the USA had 3 ships delivering aid to shore in the Red Sea near Saudi Arabia in a shorter timespan.

[–] rayyy 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It’s gonna take two months to build the pier

Not true

[–] EisFrei 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The army turned Omaha Beach into a working supply area on June 7th under German artillery fire. They can make a pier in less than a week in Gaza no problem if they wanted to.

[–] givesomefucks 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's a lot we could do. We could end this genocide with one phone call honestly.

The threat of abandoning Israel and withdrawing our forces in the area would make Israel agree to anything. They just know Biden isn't willing to do anything close to that.

We're talking about what Biden is willing to do in the timeline Biden is willing to do it in.

And that's 2 months for the US military to build a pier.

Hell we don't even need a pier.

A LHD has a fucking hovercraft, helicopters, and can hold an insane amount of supplies.

I spent a couple years on one, and even did aid missions like this before.

We might not be able to provide electricity and water without pier connections, but we don't need a pier to provide packaged aid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I really don't believe that's true. I think Israel's leaders have lost their goddamn minds and they'd be willing to end themselves and the rest of the Middle East in nuclear fire if it came down to it, which it probably would if the U.S. decided to wash their hands of Israel.

If I had to lay a bet, it's that the pier is the beginning of a US outpost in Gaza, as a check to Israeli expansion.

[–] Nudding 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It'll take longer than that, once Israel starts "accidentally" bombing the site lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Four downvotes so far by people who literally cannot parse reality

[–] Nudding 6 points 9 months ago

If this were /politics it would be -100 lol.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I swear Israel must be privately threatening to nuke Iran.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not advocating, just hypothesizing

Upvote

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

2 of those things are actions from the USA, the third action is Israel.

Logical consistency 0.

[–] BeatTakeshi 2 points 9 months ago

This is supposedly illustrating the incapacity of the US (and other countries) to prevent Israel from using famine as a genocidal war weapon

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[–] AeonFelis 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don't need food anyway Ramadan is starting they need to fast.

[–] TokenBoomer 4 points 9 months ago

Damn it. Tasteless, but that’s a good joke.

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