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[–] givesomefucks 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Israelis “have more or less accepted” the proposal, which includes the six-week cease-fire in Gaza as well as the release by Hamas of hostages considered to be vulnerable, which includes the sick, the wounded, the elderly and women, said the official.

So...

Exactly like last week when it was supposed to have happened by now?

Israel hasn't agreed to anything. This is a rumour that they may accept a hypothetical deal as a PR move.

Meanwhile their genocide hasn't slowed down. They're just trying to minimize the PR damage from gunning down all those innocent starving people

[–] TechNerdWizard42 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope people will read past the propagandist headline.

The proposal, as it was last week, is essentially you Palestine give us everything we want and all your negotiating power, we Israel will stop murdering you for Ramadan, then we're back in force after regrouping and no more threat of bad PR for killing our own...

That's not a framework for a ceasefire or a peace deal. It also plays that Israel is ready for peace and it's Hamas holding it back as always. When you're not even close to an agreement of terms, and you "leak" such details, it's an obvious ploy for media attention that it has received and straight out of the propaganda playbook.

That's not hyperbole by the way. The IDF has one of the best "how to propaganda" books in the world that was developed with the US. It is freely available for anyone to read and talks about which words to use when. Which news to leak. How to frame negotiations to paint themselves positively while not allowing actual advancement. It's a great read for everyone to be aware of when they see these methods used all over the world as it is widely adopted now.

[–] Keeponstalin 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Another temporary ceasefire proposal. Once again Israel prioritizes the continued bombing of Gaza over everything else

[–] FlowVoid 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All ceasefires are temporary, otherwise they would be peace treaties.

[–] Keeponstalin 15 points 10 months ago

A permanent ceasefire is where there is no date when the fighting resumes. A temporary ceasefire is when the fighting resumes after a set amount of time. But I agree that a peace treaty is the right thing to advocate for too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Meet our demands or we will keep up the genocide.

How about you get fucked you bunch of cunts.

Israel propaganda far exceeds that of Palestine, the US helps obviously. This is the same as Russians strive for peace with Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

IDGAF what "US" says, whoever that is, tell me what the fuck bibi said.

[–] FuglyDuck 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

indubitaboobitably.

[–] Arete 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

where can I buy your crystal ball

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Well yes, they've already stated they won't take a temporary ceasefire.

[–] gedaliyah -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They've turned down every ceasefire proposal so far, but eventually they'll have to accept one. Israel is not going to go home when there are still over a hundred hostages in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think Hamas is going to agree or surrender (assuming there are even any actual Hamas fighters left anyway). And I don't think Israel wants to stop until they've wiped out Gaza entirely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They stated their terms. At least a permanent ceasefire so they don't get genocided after two months.

[–] phoneymouse 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, Michigan put a fire under Biden’s ass