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Kremlin officials rejected on Tuesday a call for an independent postmortem examination on the remains of opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

The Council of the European Union had on Monday called for the independent review, saying Russia "must allow an independent and transparent international investigation into circumstances of his sudden death."

"Mr Navalny's unexpected and shocking death is yet another sign of the accelerating and systematic repression in Russia," the council said in a statement.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago

“Yes, we killed him. No you can’t see. Any other questions comrade?”

[–] NocturnalMorning 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Believe it or not, killing the guy might actually have the opposite effect Putin wants. People are getting tired of his shit.

[–] doublejay1999 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yes, the timing is weird. I don’t know what killing him now achieves. He was rotting in jail .

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We knew his death was certain. But is it possible that he actually died just due to the poor conditions there and not due to a deliberate attempt? On the other hand, they wouldn't have hidden his body if that was the case.

Or perhaps an attempt at torture that went too far?

[–] doublejay1999 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Last I heard he was in bad shape.

It’s murder either way, but it’s not ‘news’ exactly.

Sorry I can’t think of better way to put it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It’s a surprise to those who saw him laughing and joking on court TV shortly beforehand.

Edit: https://apnews.com/article/russia-navalny-opposition-prison-putin-arctic-f3485b0978a6447e2a657f8b39ee0b50

[–] doublejay1999 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I haven’t seen that.

[–] mo_ztt 6 points 10 months ago

I have no real idea with Navalnvy, and only dim memories of news reports about Magnitsky which went into a little more detail, but I'll tell you how I assume it operates: It's basically mistreatment to the point that it'll kill you, just slowly. Your cell's cold all the time, in the arctic winter with no blankets. You get bad food and bad sleep and beatings and no medical care of any kind. Once your body starts to malfunction (Magnitsky started having kidney failure), they go on beating you severely enough to cause additional organ damage, but then just continue to put you in your cell day after day with no medicine. Basically, you're going to die, but they're drawing the process out enough that it's indirectly, because of "medical issues" related to what they're doing to you, instead of just from blunt force trauma or something. So it's incredibly painful and long and drawn-out, a slow death of constant suffering from which you can't escape or get any relief.

[–] MindSkipperBro12 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Russian elections are coming up in March.

[–] eating3645 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] MindSkipperBro12 3 points 10 months ago

It’s a nice show of force, I suppose🤷🏿

[–] ghostdoggtv 1 points 10 months ago

Putin is paranoid about his next invasion being undermined. Pay attention to what's happening with Poland right now.

[–] Kolrami 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Who though? Americans don't like it, but that's to be expected.

Lula says we should wait until an autopsy happens, but the Kremlin won't allow independent investigation as per the article.

People who protest in Russia get punished.

The Global South will basically ignore it because it's politically useful or use a tu quoque about Israel.

China really won't care because it's internal.

[–] NocturnalMorning 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm talking about Russians, how is that not clear from the context? You can only crack down on a population so much before they get sick of your shit.

[–] BassTurd 9 points 10 months ago

OP addressed that by saying Russians are punished for speaking out. Anything short of a full country revolt will result in dead citizens. Small showings will just get literally squashed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Crack down on what, though? There are no major protests about this.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not suspicious at all.

Hey W - I heard Russia has been developing some yellow cake.

[–] Dkarma 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In 20 years we've gone from Republicans hating Russia to the last Republican president figuratively fellating him almost weekly.

The mind boggles.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I think Jon Stewart said it best - the enemy went from Communism to "wokeness", and Putin is a paragon of the "anti-woke" movement.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I feel like this is an Onion article.

Why would anyone expect otherwise? I'm pretty sure the official cause of death was listed as "Disrespecting Wise Dear Leader".