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Japan has been eclipsed by Germany as the world’s third-biggest economy and has slipped into recession, according to data released Thursday, as the country battles a weak yen and an ageing, shrinking population.

Japan’s economy, now the world’s fourth-biggest, grew 1.9% in 2023 in nominal terms – meaning it is not adjusted for inflation – but in dollar terms its gross domestic product (GDP) stood at $4.2tn compared with $4.5tn for Germany.

The shift, coming more than a decade after it ceded second place to China, has been attributed to the yen’s sharp falls against the dollar over the past two years. A weaker yen eats into profits on exports when earnings are repatriated. The Japanese currency dropped by almost a fifth against the US dollar in 2022 and 2023, including a 7% fall last year.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Japan's economy is only going to get worse. I don't think they've resolved their population decline and aging demographics.

[–] Dagnet 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If only they weren't so xenophobic, then they could maybe receive more immigrants (would love to work there myself)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, getting a work visa in Japan isn't really all that difficult. You basically need a 4-year degree and a company to sponsor you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So.. No, I can't work in Japan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Those things are achievable. Another option is to come on a student visa to either language school or university and work from that angle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you’re from the US, that degree could cost as much as Japan. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well, that's true. The other option is to save up and move to a country where the cost of education is super low/free and then either stay there or move on to Japan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the general public I don't think it's pure xenophobia, but in large parts a fear of not being able to communicate. The behavior they expose then is almost indistinguishable from xenophobia and for the receiving person in no way better, though when a foreign looking person is able to communicate, most hesitations will fall away.

I know that this is obviously not applicable to 100% of the population, but so is the other belief. There are obviously also die-hard foreigners hating nationalists, as in every country.

[–] Dagnet 7 points 1 year ago

I live in the city with the most japanese descendants outside of japan, Im half japanese myself. A lot of japanese here went back to Japan (and yes, they knew how to speak japanese) only to be met with xenophobia. Im talking full blooded japanese people, only reason they were rejected was because they were born in Brazil. You somehow seem to know more than me in the subject, I sure hope its from first hand experience if you are claiming those things.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Third place gets a crown…?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea - it's like a monarchy... eldest son gets the throne, second gets a sack of raisins and the third son gets the crown. Just like how monarchies work.

[–] stellargmite 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Sack of raisins” is a euphemism right? Something to do with Prince Andrew ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty soon they'll be eclipsed by California, who had a $4.0T GDP last year.

[–] filister 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since when is California considered to be a country?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is frequently calculated as an individual economy due to its economic force. By comparison, the GDP of Japan was only $4.2 trillion.

ahem

Edit: Texas had a GDP of $2.5 trillion, and New York had a GDP of $2 trillion. Germany had a GDP of $4.8 trillion, the UK had GDP of $3.8 trillion, and France had a GDP of $2.8 trillion. The Russian federation had a GDP of $2.2 trillion.

These these are 2023 numbers. Just for comparison. 

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Japan has been eclipsed by Germany as the world’s third-biggest economy and has slipped into recession, according to data released Thursday, as the country battles a weak yen and an ageing, shrinking population.

While Japanese carmakers and other exporters have benefited from a weak yen – which makes their goods cheaper on the international market – the country’s labour crunch is worse than Germany’s, and it is struggling to address a low birthrate.

The failure of government-led attempts to boost the birthrate means chronic labour shortages are expected to worsen, even as the country welcomes a record number of foreign workers.

The economy revitalisation minister, Yoshitaka Shindo, told reporters that Germany leapfrogging Japan showed it was “imperative” to promote structural reforms, including getting more women into full-time work and lowering the barriers to foreign investment.

Thursday’s data showed that real GDP – the total value of goods and services – shrank 0.1% in the last three months of 2023 compared to the previous quarter, due to weak spending by households and businesses, according to the cabinet office.

While Japan’s recent slip to fourth place has been attributed to dramatic currency moves, losing third spot to a troubled German economy will deal a blow to its self-esteem and to the already unpopular prime minister, Fumio Kishida.


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[–] filister 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't Germany also officially in recession?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you get a crown for 3rd place?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, a bronze one.