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    [–] [email protected] 256 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The Gordon Ramsey of software

    [–] Landmammals 65 points 10 months ago

    In a parallel universe, there's a version of Linus who runs a restaurant that makes noma look like a taco bell.

    [–] Potatos_are_not_friends 63 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    It's pretty funny that Gordon Ramsey is actually a sweet guy and plays up the angry cook guy on TV.

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    In the UK version of Hell's Kitchen you can see this side of him. In one episode he just hung out at the beach with his whole team and it was so wholesome.

    The US show is cut in a way that emphasizes his outbursts, it's much worse.

    [–] Agent641 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Same with kitchen nightmares.

    In the US version, we see rage Ramsay

    In the UK version we see despair Ramsay

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    [–] EnderMB 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Eh, this is somewhat true, and he's dug into this a few times. Some is put up for TV, but he's inclined to be annoyed at people that call themselves chefs, take people's money, and serve them sub-par products. In a few shows, like the one with Angela Hartnett where she took over The Connaught, it showed that he's still an angry dude, but that it was needed because he's taking over the restaurant at one of London's finest hotels. Michelin Star places seem to be the same boiling pot of bullying and anger to strive for the best possible quality.

    Some chefs, like J Kenji Lopez Alt have called it and him out several times on it, because it's a very damaging practice, and one that spreads throughout the industry from wannabe Ramsay's that thinks intimidation is needed to make food.

    I'm sure Ramsay is a lovely guy in person, but I would hate to work for him.

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    [–] AlmightySnoo 165 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (17 children)

    The tone may be a bit harsh but it's muuuuch better than how he used to be during his most toxic days. This is how he used to talk: https://www.networkworld.com/article/706908/security-torvalds-to-bad-security-devs-kill-yourself-now.html

    Linus definitely got much better at handling his anger since his public apology in 2018.

    [–] [email protected] 80 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    [I]f you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace ‘my kids’ with ‘sales people on the road’ if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place,” he wrote.

    Hah love it

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    [–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    reads the article

    considers the triggers prompting the outburst

    He’s… not wrong.

    Not right, but definitely not wrong. There is a big difference between effective security and total security. He was dumping on total security, which in many ways is worse than no security at all.

    [–] someacnt_ 26 points 10 months ago

    Indeed, I think he just wanted to get the point across that it is a dangerous approach.

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    [–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Ah, this happened two days ago? Further reading:

    Linus Torvalds flames Google kernel contributor over filesystem suggestion

    -The Register

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Here's the specific response and it's even better than anticipated.

    https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2401.3/04208.html

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    I love this part:

    the next time I see you copying VFS functions (or any other core functions) without udnerstanding what the f*ck they do, and why they do it, I'm going to put you in my spam-filter for a week.

    Like after all that he will just block him for a week 🤣 I would block them for a year minimum or forever...

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    [–] Agent641 20 points 10 months ago

    flames

    Now there's a bit of internet slang I haven't heard since vBulletin!

    [–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    You should do one of these a day.

    [–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    A whole calendar with classics such as:

    Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"

    [–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Damn, you know, that's a pretty good idea, a callendar with Linus quotes 😂.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

    You could make the memes manually, or like a true programmer spend several hours if not days making a script that make them for you.

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    [–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    The follow-up discussion was informative and the original commiter learned something. We all learned something when we read the discussion.

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I’d be so happy if he was yelling at me directly

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

    Notice me, senpai.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    At least someone cares for me enough to yell at me, right... RIGHT!?

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    YOUR CODE IS SHIT AND YOU ARE SHIT

    Omfg I love this guy

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

    "we only criticize people we care about. If you're messing up, and no one's saying anything anymore, you're in a bad spot"

    -- Randy Pausch, "Last Lecture"

    [–] Ohi 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    "It is not what you say that matters but the manner in which you say it; there lies the secret of the ages." - William Carlos Williams

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    To be honest, yes, this is very true. Politicans use this all the time... and I just hate it when they talk for like 30 minutes and basically say nothing.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Business people too. They have a way of speaking that kind of pacifies and exhausts you, so that by the time they're finished speaking you're confused and don't really feel like arguing anymore

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    [–] ad_on_is 35 points 10 months ago

    That's what I tell myself nearly every day.

    [–] spirinolas 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I literally just wrapped a web app I've been working on for a few months. I'm so proud of myself. I take a deserved break and see this.

    I hate everybody.

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    [–] MigratingtoLemmy 33 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I want this man along with Richard Stallman and the creator of Slackware to be immortal

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Patrick Volkerding. It's amazing he's still managing his own Linux distro after all of these years. And I'm eternal grateful for him refusing to adopt systemd and pulseaudio when they were both not mature and stable enough and most other distros didn't care.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    Most users actually have enjoyed both systemd and pulseaudio for many years now. They are both some of the best technology we have in the Linux world.

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

    Linux "Based" Torvalds

    [–] lawrence 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    There is no problem with reusing code, as long as you take some time to understand it.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Linus needs to make no corrections to his behaviour. His apology was needless.

    He only flames those who make dumb mistakes, should know better, keep doing it, and don't respect the gravity of the situation. Linux is used on MARS. Pretend to care.

    There is a pattern to the people who get upset when they've earned a rebuke from Linus. Those people could get over themselves.

    [–] [email protected] 121 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Well, kind of.

    Linus needs to call out bad code, it's an important part of Linux's quality control. He doesn't need to tell people to kill themselves.

    [–] zik 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Also, humiliating someone in front of the whole LKML list by calling their code garbage isn't constructive. It's the reason why a lot of people take one look at that toxic cesspit and walk the other way.

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    [–] someacnt_ 28 points 10 months ago

    Yea anger issues is no joke

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    [–] UnderpantsWeevil 24 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    The only thing worse than code I don't understand is code I do understand that's literally been copied and pasted sixteen times in the same file.

    Literally encapsulation, its the first fucking thing they teach you in Dev 101, my fucking god people please I'm begging you!

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    [–] Landmammals 20 points 10 months ago

    It's like a metaphor for Linux itself

    Are you allowed to make changes to the kernel? Sure, go ahead.

    But FAFO applies. If you come at the king, you'd best not miss.

    [–] menemen 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Why didn't he use any swear words? I am confused.

    [–] AeonFelis 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Insulting without using swear words requires more skill.

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    [–] fne8w2ah 18 points 10 months ago

    At this point he's to coding what Gordon Ramsay is to fine dining.

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