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FTC bans TurboTax from advertising ‘free’ services, calls it deceptive::The Federal Trade Commission ruled in a final order and opinion Monday that TurboTax, the popular tax filing software, engaged in deceptive advertising and banned the company from advertising its services for free unless it is free for all customers.

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[–] QuarterSwede 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Heck yeah. F you Intuit!

Freetaxusa.com for those who are looking for a much better alt.

[–] FenrirIII 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Free except if you're filing state taxes

[–] finestnothing 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a flat $15 for the state filing regardless of state or income, it's the main way they make money to be able to run (their optional support options are the other way they make money). I prefer the transparency of $0 federal $15 state to some ambiguous amount between $169 and $359 federal and $39-$64 state for TurboTax

[–] AA5B 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, that’s crazy. I use TurboTax every year and federal tax filing has always been free (included in purchase) plus I think $30 for State filing. Every year for decades. Where are those huge fees coming from? Do you have a business or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah but who even bothers with those?

[–] maxy 6 points 1 year ago

The IRS is also piloting their own free direct filing system this year in a few states as well!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] demonsword 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is something I don't get. I live in a "third world shithole" (Brazil). Annually, we have to fill online form (that already comes pre-filled), for most people there's a minimal amount of work involved. Only very rich people need accountants and stuff. Why the USA can't (or won't) do something like that is beyond me.

[–] finestnothing 42 points 1 year ago

It's not can't, it's won't. Tax companies like TurboTax pay a lot of money for lobbying to keep the IRS from making it free and simple

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's just one of the many perks of living in a first world shithole country.

[–] AA5B 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

US Taxes can be very complex and the gov’t does not know ahead of time all the details.

However:

  • salary and interest income are reported by employers
  • EZ form contains info the gov’t already knows
  • Newly increased standard deduction means that most people no longer can itemize (e

I’m not sure what’s missing to keep these from being simple and automatic for the majority: tipping income? State and local taxes? All the little nooks and crannies that make taxes complex are really not likely for most people.

I don’t know the limits are for TurboTax free filing but I’d expect most people to be able to now.

[–] 4onen 2 points 1 year ago

Actually, the standard deduction doesn't mean people can't itemize, it means it doesn't make financial sense to itemize. Itemizing is worse for them. If they want to itemize, they're still allowed to.

... At least that's what TurboTax and the other FreeFile program I used claimed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Americans are largely stupid and believe taxes are more complicated than they really are. The majority can use the standard deduction, and maybe have to add child tax credits. That can be done in less than an hour manually, the hardest part would be getting a physical copy of a 1040.

[–] Burn_The_Right 24 points 1 year ago

TurboTax has Supreme Court money. They may choose to purchase a SCOTUS ruling that allows them to ignore the FTC.