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"Genocide Joe": Biden Heckled During Campaign Trip For Supporting Israel President Joe Biden was called a "loser" and told to "go home". This was his first economy-focused campaign event of 2024. (www.ndtv.com)

submitted 9 months ago by i_have_no_enemies to c/politics

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10713383

Polls have also shown Biden's support slipping among Black and ethnic minority voters, who helped drive his 2020 election win against Trump.

Analysts say Biden's best hope now is a simple but quite specific number: that wages continue to rise faster than prices as they have done since April of last year, allowing consumers to feel that their wallets are fuller.

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[–] tux 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Still rather vote for him than the wanna be dictator. It's shitty, and who knows maybe the Dems will primary someone decent.

But if the choice is "generally shitty typical politician who isn't actively telling us how he's going to destroy our country" vs "I'm going to destroy our country and prosecute my enemies illegally and rip out long term federal employees and replace them with folks loyal to me who will let me be a dictator, and btw I'm saying this out loud all the time"......

It's still not a hard choice to vote for a fucking wet paper bag over trump , even a wet paper bag who is not doing the best job and is supporting questionable international policies.

Please remember they're not the same type of bad. One is run of the mill politician bad, one is literally telling us how he plans on ripping our country's founding principles to shreds.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

if trump wins it will be 100% because the democrats chose to run a shitty candidate that didn't encourage turnout among less engaged voters. and before you yell at me biden fans, those less engaged voters aren't in this thread, or indeed any politics thread. they're the ones who barely ever show up to vote in the first place. two shitty candidates = they don't care enough to register or wait hours in line, and you gotta go out and get their votes to win. it's just politics

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[–] K1nsey6 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

First they came for the communists... Condoning genocide along with Biden allows for future atrocities. What happened to 'push him left?'

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What happened to ‘push him left?’

it was a lie. that day never came because there's only one reliable mechanism to do it and it's the one we're told decade after decade we aren't allowed to use, vote for someone else

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

No, no you misheard it’s actually “slowly go further right or else the right might win”.

Why eventually if you keep voting for the lesser of two evils enough, we’ll have made so many small turns to the right that we’ve come full circle and end up on the left.

It’s genius really, vote blue no matter what and we won’t end up in a situation like this where the Overton window is so shifted to the right that people like Trump can win an election.

At the end of the day as long as “nothing would fundamentally change“ you’ll be on track to fixing this mess.

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[–] Ensign_Crab 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please remember they’re not the same type of bad.

Who is saying they are?

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[–] Suavevillain 25 points 9 months ago (14 children)

Genocide is usually a line people don't want to cross or co-sign. If he doesn't want that tag line attached him, he could course correct and do better before he ends up handing victory to Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (34 children)

I'm concerned about 2024. So many voters were asked to hold our nose and vote for conservative Joe Biden, but he's made it harder and harder to do.

He started off on the wrong foot by opening more concentration camps and sending his VP on an embarrassing gaslighting mission to Latin America, and it has just continued to get worse since then.

My expectations were already abysmally low to begin with, but even I didn't have "openly supporting a genocidal state" on my bingo card.

I think I still need to vote for him because of Republicans, but my God it will be hard to live with myself after I do.

[–] Ensign_Crab 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I think I still need to vote for him because of Republicans, but my God it will be hard to live with myself after I do.

This sentence will be ignored by combative centrist genocide apologists. Just wanted to let you know that you're not alone.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Thank you for this.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which is a pretty damn good predictor that he's going to lose. Nobody wins an election by everyone sighing and saying "fuck guess we gotta vote for them," just look at Hillary. DNC is once again shrugging their shoulders and saying "we've tried nothing and are all out of ideas," so guess it's on the U.S. people to save democracy. They've got a real...great track record.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

we're gonna have to save democracy without the democrat's help, which isn't an issue because they were part of the problem to begin with

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

imagine if the republicans ran like democrats. would you switch to voting for a supposedly pro-choice pro-gay moderate republican? no? why are we told to expect the opposite, especially from a more propagandized group of voters?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And yet it feels like they really do have us over the fire, and the best they can do is call us Russian trolls and tell us to cope. That's the best they have to offer.

Meanwhile, I have friends and loved ones being detained, deported, or worse -- and they call me privileged if I complain about it.

I've literally been accused of de facto voting for Trump even when I disclose that I voted for genocide Joe. It's cultlike and weird.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It’s cultlike and weird.

it is. I think they're just scared and clinging to "vote blue no matter who" as a security blanket while the party acts like controlled opposition. I wonder what they'll think when their strategy loses.