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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 241 points 11 months ago (62 children)

The idea of free software is extremely socialist/communist. People working together to create something that anyone can use for free, with profit being a non-existent or at least minor motivator.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

It's a real shame that generally lefties don't really care about or 'get' software freedom. You should be pushing for free software on all levels. In your personal life and in government. It's crazy how much power a company like Apple, Microsoft or Google has over everyone.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I was leftie before I was techie. If you don't know anything around tech and computers you wouldn't know what to do. Even as a fairly tech-adjacent professional it took me quite a while.

Then again, I only became a real leftie again after kicking all the corpos out of my computer.

Tech used to be (and still is) obscured by heavy gatekeeping. We who understand a little more like to joke about those who don't, and I guess we'll have to stop that if we really want to unite the left. Don't ridicule, explain. The person might never have had a chance to learn the concept.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s pretty hard to fight hegemony when your salary is just built on donations. A lot of important tech is also paid for via government grants then the private sector gets to use it and erect the walled gardens when it should be in the commons.

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[–] captainlezbian 13 points 11 months ago

As a linux leftie, I fully agree. It’s hard to convince people though. Also, I don’t necessarily think it’s the best intro to leftism for layfolk. It’s a great into to leftism for tech nerds and a great intro to tech for left nerds, but the punk who just uses the library computer doesn’t care. Unions are often the easiest intro to leftism for people and not many union folks are interested in learning free software.

I was out drinking the other day and an IBCW friend introduced me to a union brother of his and they’re smart guys who believe in the power of labor, hell they even excitedly showed me that there’s a professionals union in the AFL-CIO, but if I tried to explain a terminal to them they’d look at me like I grew several heads at once.

Free software is great praxis, but it often suffers by the fact that it isn’t what people are used to. That there are intro free softwares like GIMP, libreoffice, and basically anything where FOSS is the default. We can do this, but I think it’s definitely going to not be the easiest sell.

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[–] gaael 114 points 11 months ago (27 children)

Please stop posting good reasons to use Linux, I already feel bad enough for the poor people stuck in Win$ and MacO$

[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (25 children)

I just got rid of my last Windows installation, and I got rid of all my Apple devices a couple years ago. The Linux life is so nice!

On the other hand, I just setup a Windows gaming machine for a friend (I would have pushed Linux, but I live far away and can't commit to being tech support). There were so many hoops to jump through to cut through all the crap:

  • I had to set the region to somewhere in the EU so that my friend can uninstall Edge sometime in March, 2024 without breaking other functionality
  • I had to run a hidden script at a specific point during the install to allow me to not have to use a Microsoft account
  • I had to disconnect the non-boot drive and reinstall because the Windows installer uses motherboard drive ordering instead of UUID to decide which drive to put the boot partition on.
  • I had to run Win Debloat Tools to get rid of all the crap Microsoft adds to their OS
  • I had to find a 3rd party driver update tool because the motherboard manufacturer's software is terrible and installs a bunch of extra crap.
  • I had to install a 3rd party Nvidia driver update tool because their official one requires making an account and gives a bunch of unwanted ads as notifications.

It's seriously bonkers. It makes you really appreciate Linux as a whole and package managers in particular.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 11 months ago

Relevant Section under Gift economies:

The expansion of the Internet has witnessed a resurgence of the gift economy, especially in the technology sector. Engineers, scientists, and software developers create open-source software projects. The Linux kernel and the GNU operating system are prototypical examples of the gift economy's prominence in the technology sector and its active role in using permissive free software and copyleft licenses, which allow free reuse of software and knowledge.

Essentially the line of thought is that open source software is an example of mutual aid and the gift economy.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was an autonomous collective.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Listen, strange penguins biting people is no basis for a system of government.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Supreme executive power derives from using sudo, not some farcical user account control.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Come and see the kernel inherent in my system.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I mean, if I went 'round saying I was a sysadmin just because some angry Finn lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away

[–] Land_Strider 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're fooling yourself. We're livin' in a dictatorship, a self-perpetuating autocracy, in which the working class--

[–] ikidd 23 points 11 months ago

Oh, Robert, there's some lovely filth over here...

[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] orgrinrt 25 points 11 months ago (17 children)

I have some newfound respect for the man, it seems. Not that I didn’t respect him earlier, just thought that his toxicity was the defining trait of his temper. I find these takes somehow mellow the image in my mind.

[–] andxz 28 points 11 months ago

The man is a swedish speaking Finn originally, it kinda comes with the territory. We might technically be a minority but we're still as Finnish as the rest of them (to a certain degree at least).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think even he realized his tocicity was a problem a few years ago, so he took time out to work on that and seems much more balanced now.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Isn't it a benevolent dictatorship with Linus at the head?

[–] [email protected] 114 points 11 months ago (33 children)

Linus' power doesn't come from Ownership, but respect. Anyone can fork it and do what they want, but because Linus is respected, everyone else follows suit.

Anarchism would function in a similar manner, it wouldn't be a bunch of opinionated people doing whatever they want, but people generally listening to experts who don't actually hold systemic power.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

You can fork it, sure Linus is very respected and his decisions are considered very important but you can fork it and change however you want so it's still compatible with Anarchism.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago

Cory Doctorow has a book, "Walkaway" that is basically exploring the politics of FOSS on a societal scale. It's pretty nerdy obv but I enjoyed it and it doesn't overly glamourize any political system the way you'd typically see in political fiction.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

sudo apt install anarchism is a real command in Debian.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Idk, technically voluntary association is a key tenet of volunteerism/anarcho-capitalism, so if we're just using volunteering as the basis we might as well say it's volunteerism. I think anarcho-communism and anarcho-capitalism are a bit more nuanced than "sharing."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Anarcho-capitalism is a contradictory term that is mostly used to imagine neofeudalism.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

I mean...yeah

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Interesting assertion, but is it really?

The Linux kernel is a single software product produced by a single entity and ultimately controlled by a small cadre of highly trusted people.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Anyone can fork it and do what they want, people respect Linus and follow suit because he's good at what he does and knows it best. He holds no power or authority beyond the willful respect and acknowledgement of the people.

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