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Is climate change sending us towards an apocalypse, or will it just make life shit/hard?
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this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2023
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It's already making things hard. Unless you live in a cave (and even if you do, quite probably, IDK) you'll have noticed an increase in the frequency of what's euphemistically called "extreme weather events". These things are bad for us, but even worse for crops, and they're going to keep on getting worse.
The world has lost /is losing a lot of food this past year alone. Saw an article that Georgia (US) lost 90% of it's peaches this season, folks/farms from the Midwest and Canada either couldn't plant at all due to lack of rain or what was planted has died already.
The dam that was blown up in Ukraine ruined a huge area of farming that has global significance as they exported a lot of grains and oil seeds.
Spain is facing over 60% crop failures and the third year without honey.
Cotton crops from Texas and Spain also at a huge loss.
I am sure there's more, this is just off the top of my head. It'll take a little bit for it all to show up, but we are definitely going to be feeling the effects of this by next year I'm sure.
Well, it highly depends on how hard we try to stop climate change.
If you want a serious answer, read the IPCC report.
“The apocalypse is not something which is coming. The apocalypse has arrived in major portions of the planet and it’s only because we live within a bubble of incredible privilege and social insulation that we still have the luxury of anticipating the apocalypse.” by Terence McKenna
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I mean, eventually, a runaway greenhouse effect would be the end of life on the planet.
End of most life. We are already in the sixth mass extinction event, the Holocene extinction, which is characterized by an extinction rate that is 100 to 1000 times higher than the normal background extinction rate and is also 10 to 100 times higher than the extinction rate of any prior major extinction event in the history of this planet. (Source) It is, however, unlikely that all life will cease to exist since there will always remain habitable zones on the planet. A true runaway greenhouse effect like the one that likely happened to Venus is (very very probably) not possible, because there is literally not enough CO2 on this planet to push Earth into complete inhabitability (Source) It will happen to the Earth naturally in about a billion years though since the sun will have become ten percent brighter by then, which will first turn the oceans into water vapor (accelerating warming via runaway greenhouse effect) and finally turn the entire planet into one big desert with surface temperatures of over 900 degrees Celsius.
Depends on what you mean by apocalypse. That term didn't originally mean the end of the world, just an event so massive that the world was forever changed by it. It won't be the end of humanity, but we're running out of time to prevent it from being the death of billions. Pick your definition.
I think it very unlikely that it will end life on Earth. There are organisms that live in volcanic vents in deep ocean water. Something will evolve to fill whatever niches are available as the environment changes.
I also think that humanity will survive, but even that is not certain. How many individuals die is going to depend a lot on how well we deal with the underlying problems and what technology we are able to develop for surviving under the new conditions.
Hard life. Followed by Shit life. Then Extreme shit/hard life. Then Apocalyptic life where resources are scarce because of extreme climate. Followed by extinction? I mean eventually it's coming.
Everything will get harder and more expensive
That is going to happen regardless. The things that are causing climate change are the same things that make life harder and more expensive (governments and corporations striving for maximum profit).
Yes.
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It's not an existential threat to humanity nor is it even a bad thing for everyone. It highly depends where you live. For many countries the climate refugees are probably going to be a bigger problem than climate change itself. It's a net-negative for the earth as a whole though I believe.
Is it motivating to imagine what exactly you are trying hard to avoid? Thanks for the thread
Humans are highly adaptable and the lifeforms we require to survive will. It is those species we do not protect that will experience an apocalypse.
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I'm worried that we won't be able to support the population we have. Lower quality of life I can handle. Famine and starvation is frightening. I hate to say it, but we'll probably be ok in North America. The rest of the world, fuck.
I wonder what will happen when we have 200-300 million refugees roaming the globe due to climate change...
Bangladesh alone is 170 million.
I'm surprised my comment above was downvoted. If people aren't worried about food they are missing the most important thing we need.
What do you reckon the time-scale is for things to start kicking off? 10-20 years?
Crop failures could happen at any moment, we're already seeing it to some extent. We pushed the global population to the point where a single event (Ukraine) is bad for global supply.
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