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With the sluggishness of the site these last few days you can sometimes get slowness or infinitely loading icon when hitting submit. If you aren't sure if your post submitted, refresh the original page in a different tab before hitting submit again to see if it went through. I see double and triple posts in almost every comment section.

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[–] OonglusMoonglus 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

if only I had known this earlier

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean you have 2 comments total (this one and a duplicate of this one) it isn't really too late ;)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I hope you have learned the error of your ways

[–] Boiglenoight 4 points 1 year ago
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[–] OonglusMoonglus 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if only I had known this earlier

[–] Boiglenoight 13 points 1 year ago
[–] DanglingFury 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is good to know. Upvoted for visibility.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This is the way

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This is the way

[–] MisterSheepy 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are forgetting that a lot of these Lemmy servers are being run by just a couple people, sometimes with a server in their basement lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Or literal closet. >_>

[–] DanglingFury 21 points 1 year ago

This is good to know. Upvoted for visibility.

[–] DanglingFury 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is good to know. Upvoted for visibility.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should also know you can join smaller instances to help alleviate this problem. You'll still see most of the same content, especially if the instance has active users. Don't be too shy to sign up on some random instance, worse case scenario you just don't get approved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I joined my instance after being on Lemmy.ml about a month ago for a day, and there was so much lag because it was the largest instance at the time. I then switched to my current instance when it only had ~50 users on it and it made the world of a difference. I went from seeing the site crash every 5 seconds and posts taking 30 seconds to submit, to having a stable connection to the Fediverse.

Overall, I feel like everyone should try to join smaller instances to distribute the load so that you don’t have a bad experience, and the instances don’t get overwhelmed. It’s a win-win for everyone.

[–] consumer451 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just to add to this, at least in wefwef, I sometimes get an error when I tap Post, saying that it failed. I am then left on the page, and can hit Post again. But it didn’t fail the first time, the post was made.

So this is not just users being impatient. There is a bug.

[–] T156 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Might be due to either the websocket removal, or the sluggishness that does it.

The post processes, but the app doesn't get a response confirming that the post has been made, so it sits there until the app times out.

[–] consumer451 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have not written real code for a very long time, and I don’t know the lemmy code base at all… but I described this bug to GPT-4 and it just turned me on to idempotency.

https://stripe.com/blog/idempotency

The call could succeed, but the connection breaks before the server can tell its client about it.

Seems like it’s non-trivial to implement in rust.

https://www.lpalmieri.com/posts/idempotency/

[–] Nfamwap 5 points 1 year ago

I've had the same on Liftoff

[–] Nfamwap 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had the same on Liftoff

[–] Nfamwap 8 points 1 year ago

See what I did there....?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's just Lemmy admins trying to give us the true Reddit experience

[–] UnfortunateShort 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, we don't have to copy everything from Reddit. Although it is pretty funny that we have exactly the same bug lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I expect some aspects of the internet will never change

[–] WontonSoup 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes! The Lemmy devs should make it so that you can't hit the submit button 10 times in a row. People hit submit and nothing happens so they hit it again and again and again. Now there's a bunch of identical posts.

I remember the old days where sites would have a message saying "only hit submit once". That's gone now since sites prevent users from hitting submit more than once. I don't think Lemmy is doing that though!

[–] The2b 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be able to hit the submit button as many times as you want, but it should have a single transaction ID so the server can ignore duplicate submissions.

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[–] douglasg14b 4 points 1 year ago

It's problematic because often you'll get an error that says it failed to post the comment. In which case it's fair to try again, but it actually posted anyways.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just get off .World and onto another instance and it’s smooth sailing with mobile apps working great too.

[–] douglasg14b 2 points 1 year ago

programming.dev is getting to be pretty damn slow too...

Comments post in 5-30 seconds, and up votes can take 30+ seconds to post. Searches are pointless, and loading comments can be a repetitive painful process of reloading till it works (504 gateway timeout)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a bug to be that needs to be ironed out on the backend 😉

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can confirm this is true in Jerboa; learned the other day the hard way.

[–] martinbasic 4 points 1 year ago

...And I learned that I need to copy the whole comment I type before submit jic my comment didn't upload, at least I have my comment restored.

[–] Hildegarde 4 points 1 year ago

I said I was sorry... Gosh

Resubmitting is the reasonable response to an error that said it failed. Lemmy should add some sort of duplicate message prevention when they have the time to improve the ux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also note that if a large amount of time has passed while you're writing a response, you'll sort of time out, and the first attempt to post won't work, but because it's refreshing your session. The second attempt will post

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even for short ones, it seems to happen always for me if I reply to one person, then try to write a top-level reply after that.

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[–] jimmy90 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or you can check your personal history

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but they're not going to know to do that. People will post, see error, retry, give up and move on.

[–] Candelestine 3 points 1 year ago

Admin needs to sticky something to this effect.

What I do (web browser) is simply refresh the community to see if the post has posted yet. If it hasn't, I try again. Around a third of the time you get spinny wheel though, it actually did submit, and just forgot to let you know.

[–] kezza596 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it show up repeatedly on your profile? I used to use that as a way to track double posting on reddit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was wondering the same thing because I've definitely pushed submit multiple times but in my profile it only shows the comments once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've been finding uploading images to be very confusing as the 'upload file' and 'From url' buttons don't seem to do anything

[–] trifictional 2 points 1 year ago

The problem is a UI thing too. In wefwef for example half the time you go to post something and it says ‘error posting’, your comment actually did post. But sometimes it doesn’t.

I typically go until I see success and then delete any duplicates I left on accident.

[–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin 2 points 1 year ago

I literally posted the same comment 8 times because of that 💀💀💀

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