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Migrants, sent mostly from Texas, arrived at train stops outside New York City over the weekend to sidestep a new order limiting how they arrive.

Hundreds of migrants bound for New York City took a detour in New Jersey over the holiday weekend, in an apparent attempt to bypass a city order that seeks to limit the chaotic flow of arrivals.

Since Saturday, 13 buses from Texas and Louisiana carrying about 450 migrants have arrived in New Jersey, including a bus that arrived early Monday in Jersey City, according to Steve Fulop, the city’s mayor. Other stops included New Jersey Transit hubs in Secaucus, Fanwood, Edison and Trenton.

The surge in New Jersey arrivals appears to be an end-run around an emergency executive order last week by New York City’s mayor, Eric Adams, requiring charter bus companies to provide 32 hours’ advance notice of the arrival of migrants and restricting the times of day when they can be dropped off.

“They’re using New Jersey essentially as a bus stop to circumvent the limits on buses that can arrive in New York,” Mr. Fulop said, adding that he is not yet concerned about the migrants’ passage through the state.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (1 children)

dropped off in New Jersey

Those poor people. Even if you're anti-immigrant, nobody deserves that.

[–] billwashere 1 points 6 months ago
[–] highenergyphysics 47 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Seems pretty simple to prosecute. Someone hired the buses. Someone trafficked these people across state lines, making them sign contracts in languages they don’t understand under duress.

Start fighting back, liberals. You’re gonna “kindness” the fascism away? Worked out real well last time.

[–] themeatbridge 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If they are deceieved and held for longer than 24 hours, it's kidnapping.

[–] cactusupyourbutt 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

is it kidnapping if they are deceived, but could leave out of free will?

[–] themeatbridge 8 points 6 months ago

If they were tricked into staying, even if technically they could have left, it is still kidnapping.

The criminal act is the lie that compelled them to stay. You see this with human trafficking victims, where their kidnappers claim that the doors were unlocked and they walked freely past security and police without asking for help. A person who has been deceived doesn't expect to need help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'm no lawyer but yeah there's probably a legal difference between human trafficking via forced detention and "consentual" human trafficking. There may or may not be a legal difference between deceitful human trafficking and informed consentual trafficking (i.e. paying some guys to get you across the border is still considered trafficking), but they could probably add seperate charges for the deceit tactics.

[–] APassenger 2 points 6 months ago

Is there proof of deception? If there are credible allegations, someone - a journalist or fed - should go under cover to document it.

Has that happened yet? Honest question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

What makes you think any contracts were signed?

[–] Francisco 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Putin is using the same tactics with European countries.

[–] alvvayson 22 points 6 months ago

Republicans and Putin, name a more iconic duo.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“They’re using New Jersey essentially as a bus stop to circumvent the limits on buses that can arrive in New York,” Mr. Fulop said, adding that he is not yet concerned about the migrants’ passage through the state.

Mr. Adams signed his order last week to bring more structure to the process of buses dropping off migrants near the Port Authority Bus Terminal in Midtown Manhattan at odd hours and without notice.

Fourteen buses from Texas arrived in one day the week before last, a record since the city began processing large numbers of migrants who had been sent by Mr. Abbott.

Chicago officials said that in response to the restrictions, buses from Texas began dropping migrants off at O’Hare International Airport, on “random streets” and in neighboring suburbs.

Some of the suburbs surrounding Chicago have begun to pass similar rules regulating when chartered buses carrying migrants can be dropped off.

Michael Gonnelli, the mayor of Secaucus, N.J., where several migrants disembarked over the weekend, said in a statement on Sunday that the new rules might be too difficult to enforce and were “resulting in unexpected consequences” for transit hubs in New Jersey.


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[–] ghostdoggtv 5 points 6 months ago

They say war is politics by other means. Republicans are enemies of America.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Say what you want to say about this issue, but we can all agree that this is getting out of hand

[–] Coreidan 1 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure that’s the point. None of this is the result of politicians trying to help people. They are fucking shit up bad and I refuse to think anymore that it’s a big grand accident.