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Misinformation campaigns increasingly target the cavity-fighting mineral, prompting communities to reverse mandates. Dentists are enraged. Parents are caught in the middle.

The culture wars have a new target: your teeth. 

Communities across the U.S. are ending public water fluoridation programs, often spurred by groups that insist that people should decide whether they want the mineral — long proven to fight cavities — added to their water supplies. 

The push to flush it from water systems seems to be increasingly fueled by pandemic-related mistrust of government oversteps and misleading claims, experts say, that fluoride is harmful.

The anti-fluoridation movement gained steam with Covid,” said Dr. Meg Lochary, a pediatric dentist in Union County, North Carolina. “We’ve seen an increase of people who either don’t want fluoride or are skeptical about it.”

There should be no question about the dental benefits of fluoride, Lochary and other experts say. Major public health groups, including the American Dental Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, support the use of fluoridated water. All cite studies that show it reduces tooth decay by 25%.

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[–] QualifiedKitten 24 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I absolutely can't stand minty or cinnamon toothpaste, and have really struggled with brushing my teeth because of it. It drives me absolutely insane that so many of the flavors I can tolerate are only available in fluoride free formulations and/or get discontinued.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have issues with brushing too. I have a nerve disorder in my face which makes brushing my teeth extremely painful, so I can't do it all that often. I definitely benefit from fluoridated drinking water.

[–] QualifiedKitten 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ouch, that must really suck! I'm not dealing with actual physical pain here, just hate the minty fresh feeling in my mouth. Does mouthwash cause pain for you? I've never really used it, but briefly wondered if I could use a fluoride free toothpaste plus a fluoridated mouthwash, but I think I ran into the same issue with limited fluoridated flavors.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 7 months ago

Mouthwash does not cause pain for me, but I think that's pretty disgusting and I'm currently dealing with a different health problem that involves heaving. Hooray shitty genes. I may resort to it one day if I have to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Crest two in one shield is strawberry flavor with fluoride. Source: I have a teen with the same aversion. It doesn’t have animals or anything on it, but it is a “kids” toothpaste. You’d never know without reading it though, so I thought I’d mention it. Sorry if you’ve already heard of that one.

[–] QualifiedKitten 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I haven't tried it, but will keep it in mind. I'm currently using the Hello brand toothpastes. They seem to be a little less sweet than most other kids toothpastes, which is a big plus for me. I like their bubblegum and orange flavors best, and the blue raspberry isn't bad either. They have some other flavors without fluoride, so you have to pay attention though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Orange? I’m going to have to try that one, that actually sounds amazing.

[–] QualifiedKitten 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Crest used to sell an orange flavored toothpaste that wasn't a kid's product, and when it got discontinued, I paid about $30 for 3 tubes, so I was super excited to find another orange toothpaste. The only challenge is that very few stores carry the orange one, so I think I ended up buying it directly from the manufacturer website.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Oh man I don’t remember the orange toothpaste, but I remember when Crest had the orange mouthwash bc that was my jam.

[–] superfes 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I love cinnamon, it's so hard to find anymore, in contrast to your hatred, I wish they made more of it, but I also believe that they should be open to more flavors that aren't just oriented toward children.

[–] QualifiedKitten 2 points 7 months ago

Huh. I see quite a few cinnamon options online, but I wouldn't be surprised that it's harder to find in physical stores. They really seem to be cutting back on options everywhere lately. I found a brand that I like, so I just order a few tubes at a time from their website.

[–] dogslayeggs 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Aquafresh Extreme or whatever has a citrusy taste with a hint of mint. I love it, but my fiance hates it. It's called Mint Blast, but it's so minty that it doesn't taste minty to me.

You might like it, or you might hate it with the fire of a thousand suns.

[–] QualifiedKitten 1 points 7 months ago

OMG, both "extreme" and "blast" in combination with the word "mint" make me feel very strongly that I'll hate it! Haha. That whole "icy fresh" breath thing is so uncomfortable to me. When I'm done brushing my teeth, I just want my mouth to feel neutral.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I read your comment earlier today and then by chance was going to reorder toothpaste tonight, and I realized the kind of toothpaste I recently fell in love with has a citrus and a grape flavor, so I hunted down your comment to share with you!

The toothpaste has both fluoride and hydroxyapatite, which helps rebuild enamel. Ever since I started using hydroxyapatite, my teeth have that “fresh from the dentist clean” feeling every time I brush them. I was using a Japanese brand of toothpaste for a few years because that’s the only place I found that kind of toothpaste, but it was fluoride free. Just one tube ago I found a brand that has both!

The brand is Carifree, and this is the one I use.

Looks like they also have citrus and grape mouthwash!

[–] QualifiedKitten 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And I thought I was crazy when I paid $10 for a 6oz tube! Hahah. I do need a new dentist though, so I might just try one of the dentists near me that carries their stuff so I can grab a tube.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I should have mentioned the price is pretty insane… I’d desensitized myself to it a bit because of the whole buying-Japanese-toothpaste thing wasn’t cheap, and now I just can’t stand not using hydroxyapatite for more than like a week, lol.