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I dont know why they have to lie about it. At $5/8ft board you'd think I paid for the full 1.5. Edit: I mixed up nominal with actual.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The two-by-fours at your local home center are not 2 inches thick or 4 inches wide...not anymore at least. They spent several weeks at that size though. The sawmill cut them to that size to stack and kiln dry, and then when removed from the kiln they are then milled straight and square. Used to be they would sell the rough stock to carpenters who would do the milling themselves, but then they figured out that the railroads were charging them a fortune to ship a lot of wood that was going to be ground to sawdust anyway, so they started milling the boards before shipment. Same amount of construction lumber arrives at the construction site and it took less fuel for the locomotive to deliver it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (4 children)

they are then milled straight and square

Lol. Trying to find lumber that's straight and square is a pipe dream these days.

[–] Wrench 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It was straight and square when it was milled. Problem is that the big box stores cut corners during the kiln drying phase, so the boards have a ton of moisture still in them. As that dries, the boards twist and cup.

Plus poor protection from the elements at each storage step, which means rapid temp changes, which also causes wood movement.

Go to a local lumber yard. They tend to do a better job at kiln drying. You're still going to have warped boards, but far fewer in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, once I get my garage sorted out (and buy a jointer or make a Jig for my planer) I'm going to start getting rough cut lumber and finish it myself.

[–] Wrench 1 points 6 months ago

I tried the sled with shims on my thickness planer. It worked, but it was certainly a pain in the ass and unwieldy due to weight and length.

Picked up a 6" bench top jointer. Not great at long boards due to length of the feeds. Picked up some roller stands hoping that would be close enough, but I moved and the garage needs a lot of work before I can try them out.

If you can pick up a full floor sized jointer and have room for it, you'll save yourself several headaches if you plan on jointing a ton of rough cut lumber.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I have to talk to someone at the lumber yard though ...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I've had better luck at a real lumber yard, instead of the big box stores.

[–] XeroxCool 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's the same 10 pieces on the top of the pile for weeks. Everyone is reaching for the pieces under. As long as it's not 2x2PT

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which is why I buy stock rough sawn and mill it myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's my plan once I find a used jointer for sale.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

if you own a thickness planer, you don't immediately need a jointer. You can flatten a face with a sled and shims in the planer, and joint edges a frillion different ways. I have a jointer and sometimes I use my router table for edge jointing.