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I dont know why they have to lie about it. At $5/8ft board you'd think I paid for the full 1.5. Edit: I mixed up nominal with actual.

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[–] gdog05 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I agree with this. Use whatever system you need or want internally, but there's no reason to force whatever archaic or industry system onto a consumer. Logcutters also use a 1"=1/4 system and that is how they sell wood. A piece of wood that is 2" thick is sold as 8/4. Not 2". I get that they have their system but it seems dickish to force the consumer to use that system. There could be a good argument for it, but I've not heard one beyond "what, can't you do math?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

but there's no reason to force whatever archaic or industry system onto a consumer

Sure there is. Look up the concept of a “standard” if you don’t understand the reasons.

Standards only work when they don’t change

[–] SchmidtGenetics 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It’s like a 1/4lb paddy being a different weight before and after cooking. They can’t tell you the final weight, since it’s always going to be different. Same with wood.

The woods final actual dimensions can vary, so they tell you its original size.

A 2x10 can be anywhere from 9-3/8thick down do 8-3/4 depending on how it dries.

[–] gdog05 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I get that. But this is for kiln dried wood. And this particular issue I'm bitching about isn't about net loss. It's selling wood using an internally useful measuring system instead of how the consumer would actually think about it. It's adding needless complexity, in my mind, when there's enough factors to consider.

[–] SchmidtGenetics 3 points 6 months ago

What? The final dimensions of kiln dried wood can still vary. If they say 1-1/2 and you grab one that’s 1-3/8 you get a post like this.

So you say the original size, no one needs to do any math (what complexity are you referring to here?) since the final dimensions will always be different once acclimated at the site they will be used.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The consumer (people who work with lumber) knows how the system works. You don’t, because you don’t work with lumber.

If the boards were precisely measured in mm and binned accordingly, it would help no one because all construction techniques developed for use with lumber account for dimensional inaccuracy.

Building and working with lumber is different than working with manufactured materials like plywood or whatever.