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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_Petroleum_Holdings#Paria_Fuel_Trading_Company_diving_tragedy

Of course, there is no direct admittance of "we knew it would be cheaper to let them die."

Instead, they say "we had no legal obligation to rescue them." That's the answer for the people who were born yesterday.

Big oil truly is a disgusting thing.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Paria admitted they had no rescue plan, citing that they had 'no legal responsibility to rescue the men'. Further external attempts to save the men were reportedly blocked by Paria. In November 2023, the Commission of Enquiry found that "Paria's negligence could be characterised as gross negligence and consequently criminal". They recommended that the Director of Public Prosecutions "consider charging Paria with what is commonly known as Corporate Manslaughter."

Looks like nothing came from this.. yet?

A GoPro camera was recovered from one of the deceased divers, Kazim Ali Jr. Audio recording from the camera shows that all five men were alive after being sucked into the oil pipe, and in the audio they are heard praying and comforting each other.

This is why all of the interclass hatred and debates are stupid at the end of the day. When that's you, are you really gonna care that you died beside a Tankie or a Confederate supporter? We're slowly getting worse, while the rich literally let us die to save a couple million pounds.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 8 months ago (2 children)

When that's you, are you really gonna care that you died beside a Tankie or a Confederate supporter?

What the fuck is that question? No, I won't care when I'm dying, I will care every other time, though. And as surprising as it may be, I'm more often not dying than I am dying.

So I do and will care about an idiot who wants to steal the precious few little freedoms we actually have to support their red fash wet dream which will never actually work because it would be stupid little greedy fucks like them running things.

[–] Dasus 1 points 7 months ago

So I do and will care about an idiot who wants to steal the precious few little freedoms we actually have to support their red fash wet dream which will never actually work because it would be stupid little greedy fucks like them running things.

I'm having trouble recognising which one you're describing.

[–] Malfeasant 1 points 7 months ago

I'm more often not dying than I am dying.

Is it fucked up that this may be the most profound thing I've read all day?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Given that both of your examples are commonly authoritarian if not outright fascist in ideology, I’m not exactly sure they’re too interested in class solidarity?

Glad you can grandstand but “you and the inbred moron who voted for the people who enabled things to get this bad are both getting dicked, so you should accept their opinions as respectable” is not the slam dunk argument you think it is.

[–] SupraMario 3 points 8 months ago

All of these types are the ones who think they're going to be running the show. The end goal is just power to them, everyone likes to joke that people just think they're future millionaires, while these types just think they're future leaders getting to send their enemies to death camps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Looks like nothing came from this.. yet?

OSHA sent them to court in January, which, well, is court, so it goes long I guess

[–] gmtom 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So at most they'll get a couple million in fines that the company had already budgeted for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The report says that's because they could not find evidence to attribute the charge to any person, and figureheads cannot be imprisoned just for a crime of their company in the primitive laws of this very small island country in the Caribbean, since nothing like this has happened in that country before, apparently. The report is sort of "exploiting" the existing rule that corporations may be accused as perpetrators to accommodate for the punishment of this crime to actually be able to convict and punish; the charge of "corporate manslaughter" has never happened before either. c.f. https://hfpsc.org/corporate-homicide-manslaughter/