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Yesterday, Brian Dorsey was executed for a crime he committed in 2006. By all accounts, during his time in prison, he became remorseful for his actions and was a "model prisoner," to the point that multiple corrections officers backed his petition for clemency.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/us/brian-dorsey-missouri-execution-tuesday/index.html

In general, the media is painting him as the victim of a justice system that fails to recognize rehabilitation. I find this idea disgusting. Brian Dorsey, in a drug-induced stupor, murdered the people who gave him shelter. He brutally ended the life of a woman and her husband, and (allegedly) sexually assaulted her corpse. There is an argument that he had ineffective legal representation, but that doesn't negate the fact that he is guilty.

While I do believe that he could have been released or had his sentence converted to life in prison, and he could have potentially been a model citizen, this would have been a perversion of justice. Actions that someone takes after committing a barbaric act do not undo the damage that was done. Those two individuals are still dead, and he needed to face the ramifications for his actions.

Rehabilitation should not be an option for someone who committed crimes as depraved as he did. Quite frankly, a lethal injection was far less than what he deserved, given the horror he inflicted on others. If the punishment should fit the crime, then he was given far more leniency than was warranted.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would spending the rest of his life behind bars not accomplish the same thing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If that were certain, yes. But the prison costs a fortune, and the people in charge have a terrible habit of giving parole.

[–] FooBarrington 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A death sentence costs more than imprisonment for life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh, I'm sure that depends on your locality, I reckon stonings in Saudi Arabia are pretty cheap 😉

[–] FooBarrington 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can't have cheaper executions without removing safeguards which are supposed to stop innocent people from getting executed. But I have this strange feeling that doesn't really matter to you :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When there is absolutely no doubt, that a person has raped, I have no problem with castration, when there is no doubt a person has murdered, i have no problem with thr death penalty. Perhaps we should send all the "rehabilitated" convicts to live next door to you? How would you feel?

[–] FooBarrington 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As of right now, the US has many layers that are supposed to keep innocent people off death row, yet they still kill more than 4% innocent people. There is absolutely no way to save money on executions without increasing this number.

Since you'd like to kill people, maybe we should just execute you? How would you feel?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ultimately, I'm not interested in the financial element of protecting society, whatever the cost of assuring rapists and murders is money well spent, but this is off topic, going back to OP's original question, yes murders deserve to die, I share an unpopular opinion, so be it.

[–] FooBarrington 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, let's save the innocent by letting the state murder them instead! That will show those murderers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The death penalty is cheap in Saudi Arabia because they enact it against people who don't deserve to die. Surely you aren't advocating for murdering your countrymen for being gay or trans or something, right? Because that would be evil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one tacitly endorsing Saudi Arabian "justice"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Biblical justice, if you prefer, eye for an eye.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

The reason the death penalty is so expensive is because we need to be extremely damn sure that we're taking a proverbial eye from the right person. Around 4% of people sentenced to death are later found to be innocent. The only ways to make it cheaper are to remove the appeals process which inevitably leads to innocent people dying, or to raise the standard of evidence required for a death penalty to a point where we essentially abolish it anyway.