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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"Common sense Conservatives will listen to the common sense of the common people, not Justin Trudeau's so-called 'experts,'" a spokesperson for Poilievre told the Canadian Press.

Translation: we, Conservatives, prefer to ignore any information, no matter how well researched or sourced, that goes against our own opinion, which in all cases, is simply the opposite opinion of the governing party. In fact, we prefer the opinion of those with much to gain from us opposing these opinions, such as oil and gas companies, Christian groups, and really any person likely to receive personal monetary gain which can then be shared with us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These days, when someone starts appealing to common sense I automatically assume their position is fraught and their other arguments weak. I have yet to encounter one instance of this not being the case. Demagoguery has destroyed whatever was left of common sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

"common sense" is a toothless argument without a statement of fact to back it up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Translation: Today my staff told me to focus on "common sense". I'm very good at inserting catchphrases into every sentence. Look, I got it in 2.5 times just there!

And people think Trudeau is all substance...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

How about, if you and anyone else hears it from the actual Minister? Out of his own lips. This is a short version, you can watch the full interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDxWHvPSI_k

LP Claim: Canadians will get more money back with this tax. For sure. No questions asked.

That is either incorrect or a lie, your pick based on your political bias.

Goal post moved. Yeah. It will cost more given real world context and if the models hold, but why are you a dick having an issue with that?

"Why are you a climate denying?" But that is no the point or claim, the point is that you said that was not going to happen. That most people would get money back under your magical plan. The trend to inflation will make food, local food more expensive.

Yet I do not think making importing food from say, Mexico to Canada artificially cheaper than of growing it locally so we can have a fake, smaller or cheaper footprint as a good idea. Is not big picture thinking.


CBC take, for those who want some facts and examples, they leave out the carbon footprint of exporting food to us, so the footprint of Mexican, USA or other growers, so did the Liberals. Also, I am a Liberal, just not blind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seMTd1xoD2U

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

My comment was more on the wanton discount of expert opinion, not of the particular thoughts raised in this article. Broadly discounting expert opinion with preference to the common person, as this "spokesperson" has, is an incredibly dangerous paradigm to push.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

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