Or maybe there’s a dozen alternatives that could work better and both of us are staring at this from the bottom of a pro-hierarchy well that we’ve been stuck in ever since one guy convinced another one he should be in charge.

I don’t have a full solution, I just want us to be flexible enough to figure one (or more) out.

“The international ideal unites the human race”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One guy will always convince another of that. If the other guy disagrees, well, time for sticks and stones.

My point is you either go small, and groups self assemble however you want, but you'll have many neighbors who might not see it your way.

Or you go big, and everyone's efforts go to one shared goal, and everyone is a equal "citizen". Ideally with collective shared goals folks are doing ok.

Or you go medium, which is what we have now. Some groups are positioned and prepared to do good stuff, and others are fighting with and nail just to hold it together. There's gonna be friction with neighbors, like with "small" but the problem is "mediums" got some real big sticks and stones.

There's no right answer and I obviously didn't cover everything. But without groups of some kind, people will get picked off. There's no period of human history that disagrees with me.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People like you make me sad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Realists?

Provide a single example of anything aside from what I described, in any period of human history that both:

did not maintain power through economic or just militaristic dominance of their local region
did not experience conflict with their neighbors.

They either had cohesive, hegemonic domination within their borders and geographic separation from rivals, or had challenges with bordering nation states.

I personally hope for a star trek future

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this like a sound scientific theory that has some relevance to modern times? I could list off a myriad of "this thing has never existed in human history" making current times unique and possibly different when looking at cultural nuances. I get what you're saying totally, but this is a new era of history with the formation of Alliances like NATO and the EU that has really just started in regards to our span of time. Also, we tend to only hear about the "bloody" years of a society. One war can outshine hundreds or thousands of years with prosperity and peace so the whole doom thing seems like fear mongering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Mainly I'm highlighting that humans are tribal creatures and without some global engagement and unification, nation-states and conflict would always exist