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[–] MimicJar 137 points 8 months ago (9 children)

acting as a strong comeback for Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss.

No thank you.

I've heard great things about this story, but I'm not watching something run by these loons.

If it's a one and done season, I'll watch it once it's done. If it's going to take multiple seasons, I'll watch it when it's done. It's Netflix, so they won't finish it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

lmao is this post advertising something made by Dave and Dave? hard pass......... especially if the motherfuckers are getting high praise in the press for an unfinished story. call me when you release the final finale and the general public receives it well

[–] MimicJar 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I knew they were involved, but I was surprised to see their name dropped in the article. I assumed they would try to downplay their involvement so I checked the article to be sure.

I appreciate the honesty, but no thank you.

[–] CptEnder 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The main trailer has "from the creators of Game of Thrones" so yeah they're doubling down on the D&D.

I meannnn. They had to finish an unfinished story, and they def fucked it up. But they also made some of the best television I've seen S1-5 based off GRRMs work. I'm not giving them a pass but holy fuck that gamble of him having an ending by S9 wasn't like out of the realm of possibilities, I kinda also blame GRRM.

That being said I'm definitely waiting for large scale reviews and friend suggestions on this one. The trailer did look promising though.

[–] MimicJar 13 points 8 months ago

It's fair for GRRM to share some of the blame, but any Internet commenter, who can't write for shit (see me), could have written a better ending.

To me it seemed like they were bored and wanted to move on. They had Star Wars/Disney lined up. They had Netflix (possibly this thing) lined up. Conceptually I get it. They'd worked on Game of Thrones for years, it was time to move on.

But they fucked up bad. Real bad.

Obviously I hope they've learned and are better now, but I'm not betting on it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And the Three Body series is finished as far as I know.

I mean, that ending had to have been the final ending right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he could pretty easily continue it. It'd just move to higher dimensional viewpoints. Or become Flatworld.

[–] Blue_Morpho 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It ends with the universe rebooting so...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there’s no way to actually predict the Three Body Problem.

[–] lewdian69 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ohhh I see what you did there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Get your sophons out of my life!

[–] Pipoca 2 points 8 months ago

To be fair, the dramatic nosedive in quality of GoT happened when they ran out of source material and had to wing it.

3-body problem is a finished trilogy, so it could all have the quality of the first seasons of GoT.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

they do perfectly fine when they are adapting existing material. it's when you ask them to write their own story that they can't handle it. the first four seasons of Game of Thrones were fucking exceptional. I have no idea how you turn this book into a movie though

[–] MimicJar 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Over its eight-episode run

It's a series AFAIK.

I do agree they did a solid job adapting things, and I would hope the collective slap from the failure that was the final seasons of Game of Thrones would humble them.

I'm not writing the series off completely, I'm just not willing to give it a shot until after a thorough review and clear ending.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Unlike Game of Thrones, the source material for this is finished. Game of Thrones went to shit once they ran out of source material.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah I think you hit on the issue with your last sentence- a story that's so nonlinear, idea focused, and time-spanning, I don't trust them to adapt it and keep the nuance.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

It's based on book one of a trilogy.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well, if they just stick to adapting the books (and to my knowledge the story is finished) I'm OK with it. With GoT the problem was mostly when the source material was over, till then they did a good job adapting the story.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The problem with GoT is the same as with all productions where they constantly escalate with very little character building. There's nowhere to go, so inevitably when they do try and tie all things together there's nothing of substance and it's just a huge letdown.

[–] bfg9k 17 points 8 months ago

Oh those fuck boys are involved? Hard pass

[–] abracaDavid 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Minor spoilers ahead.

I have no clue what this show will be like.

I read the trilogy and I'm not really sure that it will translate to the screen very well. The story is absolutely massive and spans from beginning in the Chinese cultural revolution and ends at the literal end of time.

That being said, it is probably my favorite and what I consider the best sci-fi trilogy out there.

Incredibly interesting concepts are explored and it also has a really interesting way of telling the story. It's not just about one guy saving the whole universe. It catalogs all of civilization's attempts at coming together and protecting humanity from an alien threat. And it also goes into all of the issues that humanity runs into while trying to work together, while also spanning across thousands of years.

It's a really fantastic series and I would highly recommend it to just about anyone with an intellectual interest in humanity's future.

It's a big statement to say, but this book changed my outlook on humanity and globalism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Adrian Tchaikovsky. Three books starting with "Children Of Time." After centuries of collapse after meltdown, Earth's last gast is an attempt to terraform dozens of exoplanets. The books do a great job of describing non-Human races

[–] bizzle 4 points 8 months ago

Children of Stuff is incredible, I didn't expect a whole lot but I was blown away. Very cool story.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The series was a really interesting exercise in not giving the protagonists anything like a fair fight. Like, the level of hopelessness is impressive. It made me realize almost every other story I’ve ever seen is like children’s material compared to this, in terms of hand-holding the audience and making sure they’re safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I think the first book is easy enough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Just pirate it. And if you are paying for Netflix already it doesn't matter if you watch it or not, you already paid.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Eh, even when pirating, you don't want to get invested into a story for them to completely ruin it in a few seasons. For how good the early seasons of game of thrones are, I can't rewatch them because of season 8.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's why I say you should always watch only the first season, of any series. You'll see a lot more series and you'll never be disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Except when the season ends with a massive cliffhanger, which they all do.

[–] MimicJar 10 points 8 months ago

It's not a matter of pirating or not, it's a matter of quality.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Still have to invest time and emotion into watching it. Money isn't the only metric

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I haven't heard great things about the story, quite the contrary. Combined with these two dumbos behind it I have no hopes for this to be good. I'll still watch it, because it's sci-fi, though.

[–] Cocodapuf 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well I read the book, and I want to say I loved it. But 90 percent of the book is buildup, focusing on the Chinese social revolution. It's equal parts tragic, confusing and horrifying. I mean, it's a human story, but it's not scifi and it's honestly hard to get through. But then the last two chapters have some fantastic scifi, some of the coolest ideas I've seen in fact!

But I'm not sure it's worth it. I kind of want to recommend reading just the last three chapters or something.

In contrast, The Expanse is a fantastic book series (and tv show) and that's a fantastic scifi story all the way through for like 6 books.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

What about the last 3?

[–] RampantParanoia2365 2 points 8 months ago

But this article is saying great things about the story....

[–] CrayonRosary 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I read all three of the main books by the author. There's definitely some good stuff in there. Really thought provoking stuff. And a lot of crap. Crap physics, crap characters, crap writing style, and way too many plots.

Condensing it down to a TV series might be the best thing that can be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's what I heard and it sounds very plausible, so I don't think I'll pick up the books

[–] SoleInvictus 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I had the same reaction. George R.R. Martin, Patrick Rothfuss, Scott Lynch, and Brandon Sanderson have me spooked.

[–] june 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of all those people, Sanderson shouldn’t have you spooked at all. As long as he doesn’t die, he will finish what he starts, I guarantee it.

[–] TingoTenga 5 points 8 months ago

Hell, he picked up and finished the massive Wheel of Time series for Robert Jordan.

[–] zenharbinger 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Brandon Sanderson is a machine. Nothing like the others

[–] SoleInvictus 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's about the frequency of Stormlight Archives releases. Last I checked, he stated he had over a dozen Cosmere novels to release before the next one drops. If he gets hit by a truck, that's the end of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah but that applies to every author

[–] Pipoca 1 points 8 months ago

A dozen cosmere novels is what, four years of writing for him?

[–] TIMMAY 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah where is thorn of emberlain? What's the story with lynch?

[–] SoleInvictus 2 points 8 months ago

Apparently he has crippling anxiety. I get it and, out of everyone I've listed, I'm very okay with him and Sanderson. I'm just wary of getting invested in unfinished series. Lynch only has the Gentleman Bastards series, which I fell in love with. Sanderson has so many literary irons in the fire that he's going to have gobs of unfinished business if something happens to him or he pulls a GRRM and just fucks off one day.