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[–] masquenox -1 points 6 months ago (23 children)

My experiences with death has cured me of any atheist delusions. There's a damn good reason they say, "there are no atheists in foxholes." It's not about whether you believe this or that to be real or not real - that is irrelevant - it's about what matters in those horrible moments people experience true mortality before they go. It's not pretty like they pretend it to be in the movies, and armchair philosophizing doesn't mean squat to people then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (18 children)

No offense, but "No atheists in foxholes" ONLY makes sense to religious people... why would an atheist pray to something he/she doesn't believe in? Do Christians pray to Muhammad or one of the thousands of other religions in foxholes? Of course not, because they don't believe in them... that's the point. If someone is doing that, they're at best agnostic.

And for the record, I've had one of my daughters literally die in my arms, it's a terrible experience, but it didn't convert me to some religion to try and make sense out of.

[–] masquenox -4 points 6 months ago (17 children)

No offense,

None taken.

but “No atheists in foxholes” ONLY makes sense to religious people

I'm afraid not. I'm not religious at all - and it makes perfect sense to me.

why would an atheist pray to something he/she doesn’t believe in?

It's very easy to convince yourself that you've chosen to believe this or that when life is comfortable. It's peak individualism - and such delusions fall apart very fast when the trauma starts piling on. You don't have to believe me - believe the people who wrote the CIA's torture manuals.

It's called "regression" - if you were spoon-fed a certain religion as a child you will "regress" to that under extreme duress (amongst other, even worse, things). That's why they say, “there are no atheists in foxholes.”

[–] Dnn 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if you were spoon-fed a certain religion as a child

And if you weren't? Probably hard to believe for most Americans but atheism isn't an invention of the current generations.

[–] masquenox -3 points 6 months ago

but atheism isn’t an invention of the current generations.

Of course it isn't.

And if you weren’t?

That's actually a very difficult thing... even someone who was raised in a non-religious home would be exposed to religion (and things worse than religion under our current circumstances) through social osmosis. Soooo... you'd have to find someone that was raised in a society that can be called atheist with a straight face.

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