this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
624 points (98.8% liked)

politics

19232 readers
2358 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The white supremacist right is penetrating the mainstream right with increasing ease.

The Conservative Political Action Conference is the premier gathering of right-wing activists and politicians in America every year, and it serves as a bellwether for the direction of the conservative movement. This year Nazis showed up.

According to an NBC News report, “a group of Nazis who openly identified as national socialists mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed ‘race science’ and antisemitic conspiracy theories.” (Hitler’s Nazi Party was officially called the “National Socialist German Workers’ Party.”) The reporter of the article has video of one of them giving a “heil Hitler”-style salute in the lobby of the hotel where the conference took place and of other members of the group reportedly used the N-word.

This is a critical frog-in-boiling-water moment for the right: The mainstream organs of American conservatism are apparently acclimating to Nazis in their pot. That this group was able to mingle with participants at a high-profile conference, wasn't kicked out of CPAC, and wasn't appropriately condemned is a sign of how contiguous mainstream conservatism has become with white supremacist politics today.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Burn_The_Right 55 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think the boiling frog analogy really applies when the frogs are never going to jump out of the water.

Conservatism is the foundation of nazism. They know it looks bad, so they publicly downplay it. But they still embrace their nazi constituency.

[–] Zombiepirate 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly.

Try to tell a conservative that fascism is a right-wing ideology; they'll reject the premise every time. This is because either:

  • they're playing cryptofascist games and enjoy pissing you off
  • they're brainwashed into thinking evil=left and will never consider any alternative

So they're either on board or a useful idiot. I invite people to try it sometime if they don't believe me.

[–] Hominine 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I get the point of analyzing fascism in logical circles but to discuss the issue with the adherents sounds a bit "lost ball in tall grass" to me.
Who cares what Republicans think of the origins and prior applications of the ideology while they are exclusively leaning into it in the present moment? Frankly it seems like a strange jumping off point to change people's minds or engage in any kind of fruitful conversation.
My two pennies (by way of Ecco I suppose.)

[–] Zombiepirate 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My suggestion isn't for the edification of fascists; it's to show leftists that conservatives cannot be honest about fascism.

We're in agreement that it doesn't much matter which option they choose, as the effect is the same.

[–] Hominine 5 points 9 months ago

I see, thanks for setting me straight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

So a combination of boiling frogs and crabs in a bucket?