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[–] TropicalDingdong 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We're in an era of populism and people are still trying to use the 2000s era to predict today.

He doesn't need to wide. his base, he just needs to motivate them. He need to to get more people excited about voting for him than Biden does those excited to vote Biden.

It's about turnout and driving a base. He's wiping the floor with Biden right now in the polls. No one is excited to vote Biden. It's not clear to me he even has a base. Instead taking heads are just trying to browbeat any one left of center into supporting Biden. It won't work at scale. Bidens got to do his own work there, because it's not currently Trump in office, it's Biden. Always harder for an incumbent, especially one who has become deeply unpopular with the coalition of voters that out him into office. No amount of blue no matter who is going to fix Biden as a candidate. Only Biden can do that.

[–] givesomefucks 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Biden and the DNC know that

It's just what excites voters pisses off big money donors. And they picked the side neoliberals are always going to pick.

And they're hoping the threat of trump is enough to scare the serfs into line.

From a psychology perspective, it's a horrible plan. Especially after it has a 50% success rate in the last two elections. 2024 is a coin flip, and it's only because we're using trump as an excuse to run someone who's first presidential primary was 2 generations ago.

Seriously. A person born the year of Bidens first primary could safely be a grandparent for this one. In some red states, a great grandparent already.

He's never been a popular candidate, just had the luck of getting the primary handed to him and getting to face the literal worst president we've ever had the general.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s just what excites voters pisses off big money donors.

That is so basic, yet perfectly describes the situation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's nearly like religion and donations should be kept out of politics..

[–] MotoAsh 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But corporations are people, my friend, and people have freedom of speech! and oh look, would you look here, money is speech ... ugh this country is a farce.

[–] laverabe 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A light blue "flawed democracy" is a more accurate description. Whereas Russia is a dark red authoritarian regime.

Things are rough in the US but they could get worse. Or better. It depends on whether or not people vote in every single election. Apathy breeds authoritarian regimes. Saying the country is a farce breeds apathy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

[–] MotoAsh 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I say it to remind people that ALL of those currently in power are incapable. A light blue Democracy is exactly what has allowed a fascist rise. By leaving these clowns in positions of power, the country DOES become a farce.

If your response to hearing your country is slipping away from anything good is apathy, that very much sounds like a you problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We have to beat the system to change the system. And if we ever do, will the motivation still be there to change it?