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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Because Israel paid for these bombs. Due to the war, Ukraine suffers from a serious lack of money. Therefore, they can't just buy the weapons they need. Instead, the US and other NATO countries provide them for free. To do so, Biden needs congressional approval. The only thing he can do on his own is to give arms manufacturers the permission to sell weapons, e.g. to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're not actually free, they're being provided under bilateral aid agreements. If Ukraine survives the war it's going to be saddled with an enormous amount of debt.

The screw here is that countries giving can use the debt to fiddle their own books, making their economies look better than they really are (because they know Ukraine will never be able to pay it all back).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They won't be required to pay it back like that, that is a propaganda talking point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

What's your source for saying it's a propaganda talking point?

Here is my source for it all being bilateral aid: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/

Do you wish to challenge the definition of "bilateral"?


My goal here isn't to say that Ukraine shouldn't be funded - it absolutely should, and I believe doing so is essential to global security. My goal here is to call out the people who seek to exploit this war as an opportunity to sell more weapons and profit from death.

In that sense, many world leaders are in fact in league with Putin. Putin plays the bad guy, but they all profit, while general people and societies suffer.

But hey, they need to "thin the heard" in order to mitigate the other issues their ramptant exploitation is causing, such that they can continue to profit unabated. So I guess war is inevitable /s.


War is about making money, primarily from selling weapons. There are secondary objectives as well, but the real goal is always money.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Israel gets billions in 'aid', the American people paid for these bombs. The real reason is that Israel has a ridiculously effective lobby group in AIPAC where they control pretty much everyone in Congress. Ukraine doesn't have that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The real reason is that Israel has a ridiculously effective lobby group in AIPAC where they control pretty much everyone in Congress.

...like this:

Pro-Israel groups target US lawmakers critical of Gaza war with attack ads