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Lemmy users lack nuace and it stops actual discussion. (self.unpopularopinion)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by RedAggroBest to c/unpopularopinion

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I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as "we'll just handle it") plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

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[–] Anticorp 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The system was a lot more useful when it showed up votes and downvotes separately. I was stoked when Lemmy came out and that was the default display. Now they seem to have removed that even as a user config option, which is very disappointing. People perceive something with 20 downvotes very differently than they do something with 380 upvotes and 400 downvotes. Showing an average skews people's perception and helps create a hive mind response approach. People don't want to reply if their reply might be controversial, because it looks like they're just being shouted down. And then people who agree don't want to respond and say they agree, or they're just jumping into the fire with the first person.

[–] na_th_an 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still see separate counts in the web UI. And I agree that separate counts are essential information. I think the level of discourse on Reddit dropped significantly when they hid the separate up/down counts.

[–] Anticorp 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the config option is set per instance. Some of them have it, some of them don't. And then a lot of the popular apps don't support it, even if your instance has it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no option like this, it was probably changed in the app you are using.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I checked the website too, and it was combined. I checked again just now and it's not combined. Weird! I have instance hopped a few times, so it must have been whatever instance I was on at the time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ah I believe lemmy-ui only shows seperate counts if the post actually received any downvotes.