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[–] Wogi 267 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is a great example of the fallacy fallacy.

A fallacious argument is not necessarily an incorrect one.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't fall prey to the fallacy fallacy fallacy.

A fallacious argument whose only logical protection is the fallacy fallacy is a fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This whole thing is too phallus-y for me.

[–] ignotum 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Same here, i can only take at most two fallacies at once, so this is simply too much

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Stop talking and we can take a third. Peace be with you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 2 points 10 months ago

Isn’t it phallusi?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Phallusy? or Falussy? Think about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I could go for some falussy, you right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

There's no such thing as "too phallus-y"!

[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago

This is the only time so far I've seen "fallacy fallacy" used correctly and not being used, ironically fallaciously, as if it automatically cancels out every fallacy in a person's argument automatically making it valid.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Especially when the speaker isn't a trained orator who knows to avoid that as much as possible during an argument

[–] [email protected] 81 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or when objectivity is not called for. All those fallacies and "unfair strategies" are described as they are in order to keep objective discussions at said objective level. Yet, when the discussion by it's nature cannot be objective, none of those "fallacies" apply as fallacies.

Besides: An appeal is not a bad tactic in any way, shape or form.

[–] Wogi 14 points 10 months ago

An appeal to emotion, when you're trying to prove your case on its logical merits alone, isn't helpful.

X is good because y and z are true. As opposed to X is good because all my friends like it.

Most often appeals to emotion are kind of necessary. Issues are rarely so black and white as try be purely logical.

Ex is good because when my homies drop ex they have a great night. No Ex is bad for you. But consenting adults being what they are.... Etc etc.

[–] byroon 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These aren't fallacious arguments in this case though

[–] Wogi 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] byroon 2 points 10 months ago

Hmm, I read your comment as serious. My mistake