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How are claims about "X technology uses as much energy as a small nation" evaluated? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 10 months ago by LesserAbe to c/asklemmy

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I see news stories that will give examples of how much energy a type of technology uses (usually AI or crypto). They'll claim very big numbers like the whole ecosystem using "as much as a small country" or one instance of use being "as much as an average home uses in a year."

With the crypto ecosystem being so big and I'm less inclined to defend it, I haven't thought as much about the claims. But with AI while it still has problematic aspects, it also has a lot of useful applications. When I run a single query the idea it's the same energy as driving my car ten miles or whatever doesn't seem to pass the smell test.

How are these numbers generated? Historically media doesn't do great with science reporting ("a cure for cancer was just invented" etc) so just trying to get some context/perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a specific (and probably the most well-known) case, but for details about how the Bitcoin Energy Consumption Index is calculated, you can hit https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption and look under the header "Energy consumption model and key assumptions". There is a summary and a link to a paper detailing their methods. Skepticism about science reporting is super important! And I'm certainly willing to have my mind changed, but it looks like there's a lot of substance to these claims.

[–] LesserAbe 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing this, just the kind of thing I was thinking about.

Are you aware of anything related to AI energy usage?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a paper about it by the same guy: . I found it while reading an NYT article about AI consumption.

[–] LesserAbe 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I might be missing it but I don't see the link, can you reshare?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe this will work?