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[–] jordanlund 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

72 million gun owners seems low to me...

Here's a stat that pegs the total number of guns at around 434 million and just under 20 million AR-15s.

https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/17/data-us-has-434-million-guns-20m-ars-150m-mags

At only 72 million gun owning homes, that would mean, on average, 6 guns per gun owner?

https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

22% of gun owners have only a single firearm. So if the 72 million number is correct, that means 15,840,000 single gun owners, and the remaining 418,160,000 guns are owned by 56,160,000, or 7.45 guns per owner.

[–] Thrashy 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds about right. I grew up in central Missouri, and while relatively few of my friends had guns, the one that did had a goddamn arsenal in his bedroom. Two shotguns, three rifles, and a "big" handgun that all stayed in a gun safe, and a .22 pistol he kept under the bed "for safety." And that was just his room, as a high schooler... His brother and his mother both had other weapons of their own.

Even people who are just hobby shooters or hunters rather than 2A "mah guns" weirdos like said friend was tend to accumulate weapons over time. It's like any other hobby in that regard.

[–] Bassman1805 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, there are a lot of shades of gray for multiple gun owners.

  • Own a single handgun for self defense
  • Own a single rifle for hunting
  • Own both of the above
  • Own different rifles for hunting different animals
  • Own a Shotgun for hunting birds (plus some combination of the above)
  • Own an old/historic gun more as an art piece (but it's functional if wanted)
  • Owns a fucking arsenal

Add in the fact that some people sort of end up collecting guns the way some people collect guitars...I wouldn't be so quick to turn away from the original statistic.

[–] themeatbridge 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It would be interesting to compare gun ownership to guitar ownership, because the analogy tracks pretty well.

Some people just wanted a guitar. They might play it often, or it might sit in a closet.

Some people have specialty guitars for different reasons. An acoustic for impromptu jam sessions, an electric for band practice, a fancy guitar to play on stage, different bodies for different sounds, etc.

And some people just like collecting guitars. They have a bunch that they have acquired over the years, some favorites, some are investments, some are projects.

I would bet the distribution curve of guns per owner tracks pretty closely with the curve of guitars per owner.

[–] Bassman1805 5 points 7 months ago

I'll say that while I do know a couple of people that seem to be prepping for an apocalypse scenario where guitars are the most valuable currency, gun owners have a much larger spike at that end of the bell curve.

Other than that I think it'd be a pretty similar distribution, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I lived with a guy who had a kayak collection. Different boats for different rivers or different things he wanted to do. You can only be in one boat at a time, so how many can you need?

He once explained to me how he didn't have too many kayaks, he actually had too few. He did not have the money for more boats.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

LHaving met a good few gun fans. Yeah 7 to 8 guns seems like a low average.

Helped a friend move from a apartment to a new house. Over 15 guns. I say over as he also had a number of parts. I do not know enough to know if complete guns could be built. Looked like a few complete guns possible to my non gun fan eyes.

This was when I lived in GA. He was not considered unusual by most of the friends helping us.

What seems less likely to me. Is all 72m around the US siding with Texas.

[–] assassin_aragorn 6 points 7 months ago

What seems less likely to me. Is all 72m around the US siding with Texas.

They can't fathom this. They think they after all their threats and dehumanization, none of the people they're targeted have gone and gotten guns.

But hey, we always knew logic wasn't their strong suit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Oh, the math in this is all kinds of fucked up. OPOP knows stats exists, they just haven't met it personally.

Not all 72M gun owners live in Texas, and not all of the ones that do support these turds. They mention an AR15 stat, and then completely ignore it in the conclusion.

Also, as someone else reponded, yeah: 6 guns per owner seems about right on average. I have 6: two rifles and 4 handguns. And there are a few more I'd like to collect; I wouldn't be surprised if I had 10 or 11, eventually. It's a hobby, and I like to shoot. And I don't even hunt; hunters are going to have different guns for differrent game, and might have even more than average.

It's a hobby, and like hobbies, the people who are into it are going to own predominantly more of the thing. The 2A and gun violence make it a political and socially sensitive topic, and changes the verbiage, but otherwise the same hobby trends apply.

[–] Pipoca 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The population of the US is ~330 million total.

By the pigeonhole principal, that means that some gun owners must own 2 guns, because there's more guns than people.

Anyways, multiple guns per owner makes intuitive sense, because different guns are for different things. You aren't going to hunt an elk with the same caliber rifle you'd hunt a rabbit with. Either you won't kill the elk, or you'll just have a fine mist that used to be a rabbit.

For another thing, ammunition costs are different for different calibers. You can buy .22 lr for under 10 cents per round. Meanwhile, 30-06 is over $1 per round. So you can do more target practice for the same money with a cheaper round.

[–] jordanlund 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, definitely! A .22 and .45-70 both have VERY different applications. I still think 72 million owners on 435 million guns is a low estimate.