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[–] [email protected] 208 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Meanwhile Japanese people, for all their faults, put a fucking mask on when they get a cold because that's seen as a decent thing to do.

[–] Duamerthrax 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but they're still expected to come into work even when they're ready to fall over.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Duamerthrax 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you think America is bad, you really need to look more into Japanese Black Companies. They really take the cake on toxic work cultural. Imagine being socially obligated to get black out drunk with your boss.

[–] Rachelhazideas 31 points 10 months ago

'If you think America is bad' is wholly unnecessary when you consider that socialized healthcare hardly exists, public education is a living corpse of severely underpaid teachers, mass shootings (I've been in one), mandatory cost of car ownership, and so many other fucked up things.

I'm not saying that Japan is a good place to live, because it has a myriad of it's own problems and I personally wouldn't want to live there. I just think we should give people some credit for the shit Americans put up with too.

[–] khannie 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True story: Stalin did this every night with his inner circle. Attendance was mandatory assuming you wanted to live.

Behind the bastards did a great episode on it.

[–] Duamerthrax 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

hmmm. Death or all your coworkers slightly judging you? White collar work sounds annoying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

... It's doubly true for blue collar workers in Asia.

White collar workers get like 15-20 days off a year in Korea, and these are also used for sick days - at enlightened companies, you can work from home on a sick day and have it not count as leave...

I don't know that much about what goes on in blue collar work, but something tells me the workplaces for natives just that are just a few steps above the blue collar labor done by migrants living in barracks in isolated locales working 60+ hour weeks aren't the type to liberally give sick days.

[–] AgentGrimstone 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If it weren't for the work culture, I would love to live in Japan.

[–] madscience 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's true, they hate us*.

*Anyone that isn't Japanese

[–] helpImTrappedOnline 6 points 10 months ago

We make it so easy

[–] HipHoboHarold 13 points 10 months ago

My boyfriend is in nursing school, and they have some sort of program where you can move there and get a house for cheap, if not free. I'm sure they're not great houses and would need some work done, but still a great deal. We considered it for a hot minute...

But then I started thinking about that stuff, and did some more research into what it's like to move there. Some really awesome aspects to it, but I think we are gonna pass.

[–] Anticorp 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is the decent thing to do. Well the most decent thing is to isolate yourself when you're sick.

[–] MaxVoltage 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I just stay home when I'm sick ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Haven't they been seeing a rise in anti mask/vaxxers since covid misinformation during initial lockdowns?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know. But I do know masking up when sick was a thing even before covid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's an ugly fact of human nature that we see way higher levels of social responsibility in relatively ethnically homogeneous societies like Japan.