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The United Nations' top court opens hearings Thursday into South Africa's allegation that Israel's war with Hamas amounts to genocide against Palestinians, a claim that Israel strongly denies.

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[–] jpreston2005 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The reason you're getting so much push back on this, is because People rightly recognize the limitations inherent within the legal framework. On top of qualified immunity, and the disastrous effects money and privilege have on the outcome of the system, you get this. Where we all are seeing openly, plainly, that isreal is murdering innocent civilians. broad daylight, recorded with context, murder.

We finally get some good news about Someone holding them accountable, and then here comes someone saying "TECHNICALLY, they're not doing anything wrong."

I know you're not saying they aren't doing wrong, but that's what it feels like. just another rug pulling moment where beleaguered, war and disaster weary people see a glimmer of justice, and have it snatched away in the same breath. It's infuriating. It's insulting. And it's everyday.

[–] bustrpoindextr 0 points 8 months ago

While I don't disagree with what you're saying. I don't fully agree with it either.

Because what I'm actually stating is. Don't charge a pedophile with murder, or don't charge a murderer with child molestation.

Words and charges matter.

Think about it like this, since there's no hard evidence that this is a genocide because of the legal definition. Israel is likely going to win this case. That means they can say they defended their actions in court and won, can't we all agree that's bad?

Charge them with what you can actually prove. They have committed war crimes, it's just not likely feasible to prove this is genocide without a lot more evidence.

Don't get me wrong, sure investigate it, make sure it isn't. But...

[–] JustZ -1 points 8 months ago

Okay well you can also wait until the court dismisses the case on the papers because it doesn't meet the legal definition.