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After pushback by some bishops in Africa, Poland and elsewhere, the Vatican on Thursday defended the recent move by Pope Francis to allow blessings for same-sex couples, insisting there is nothing “heretical” involved.

In a five-page statement, the Holy See’s office to safeguard doctrinal orthodoxy expressed understanding that some bishops’ conferences need more time for “pastoral reflection” on the pontiff’s formal approval for such blessings.

But “there is no room to distance ourselves doctrinally” from the Declaration about the blessings “or to consider it heretical, contrary to the Tradition of the Church or blasphemous,’' said the statement by the office, formally called the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The new rule of blessings came last month in the form of a declaration, an important Catholic church document.

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[–] TallonMetroid 60 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Look, the doctrine of papal infallibility means that by definition this is anything but heretical, and any who don't like it can go and form their own church with blackjack and hookers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is one thing that's been irritating me.

I had friends in highschool who were catholic, one even got about 75% toward being a priest, and they always said whatever the pope says is catholic "law" (not their word, but I can't remember the words they said exactly)

Now suddenly the pope can be wrong? What changed? The bible certainly didn't....

[–] AA5B 1 points 11 months ago

They were idiots? I’m older than most of y’all and Catholic School always taught that the Pope is infallible in matters of doctrine. If your friends only listened to the first half, that’s on them

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Papal infallibility only applies when he speaks ex cathedra, this is, explicitely defining doctrine, which wasn't the case here. Read more.

Regardless, if you want an actual unfallible argument as for why homosexual unions should not be denied blessings on the basis of them being gay, is that it takes a bigoted moron to oppose gay marriage. No need to cater to delusions that are only given value when they reaffirm preexisting bigotry.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 1 points 11 months ago

I am not an expert on this stuff but I thought it wasn't anything he said it is only if he says the magic phrase before saying something.