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Why do people not understand that you can agree with one thing someone said or did while disagreeing with the majority of what they stand for? (www.youtube.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Lafari to c/asklemmy

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An example is that I generally despise Jordan Peterson and most of what he says, but I often quote one thing that Jordan Peterson said (in the linked video) because I think it's a good summary of why toxic positivity doesn't work.

People (who hate JP) freak out when I quote him and say "Why tf are you quoting Jordan Peterson? Are you a insert thing that Jordan Peterson is?" And I'm like "No, I generally disagree with him on most points, aside from this one thing." But they don't believe or accept it and assume that I must be a #1 Jordan Peterson fan or something.

I think it can be considered a partial agreement, majority disagreement. Or a partial agreement with a person you generally disagree with. But I'd be open to other terms of how to describe this in a way people can understand.

Also, to avoid the controversy of referencing Jordan Peterson, if anyone has a better summary of the same concept explained by a different person in a way as well as he does, that would be appreciated too.

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[–] Lafari -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... I'm not sure what the opposite of toxic positivity is, but probably not that. Basically acknowledging problems and working from there in a positive direction, rather than simply denying problems and pretending everything's fine when it isn't. A google search tells me "tragic optimism" can be described as the opposing concept, whether that fits or not.

[–] cheese_greater 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That guy is beyond toxic to me. I've never seen a less self-aware and more mentally ill psychologist.

I would see this guy before I ever entertained being in the same postal code as Peterson

He's taking advantage of young, desperate, vulnerable men and its beyond infuriating as it is discouraging and dangerous.

[–] Lafari 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well I completely agree with you there 😂

[–] cheese_greater 3 points 11 months ago

Good Lafari