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A federal judge on Wednesday temporarily blocked a California law that would have banned carrying firearms in most public places, ruling that it violates the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and deprives people of their ability to defend themselves and their loved ones.

The law signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September was set to take effect Jan. 1. It would have prohibited people from carrying concealed guns in 26 places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban would apply whether the person has a permit to carry a concealed weapon or not. One exception would be for privately owned businesses that put up signs saying people are allowed to bring guns on their premises.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

The US is so fucking dumb.

Let's make murdering someone as easy as pointing and clicking, can't be any consequences from that!

[–] SkyezOpen 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

America was founded by guns and it is chock full of them. There is no way to put that genie back in the bottle.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (35 children)

There literally is, it's called a constitutional amendment and they've been enacted many times before.

Of course, there's not the political will for it, because, like I said, The US is so fucking dumb.

[–] SkyezOpen 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

"Hey guys, they passed a constitutional amendment. We better turn all our guns in."

-Like 4 Americans

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Guns wouldn’t disappear overnight ofc. But make owning guns illegal, arrest people who own them and create buyback programs. It might take some time. It might be super fast.

But you know what for sure wouldn’t solve anything? Doing nothing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Australia did it and it worked pretty well for them. You just make gun ownership illegal, ask for them back in a reasonable timeframe, and then tell the cops to stop murdering unarmed black people for a minute to go chase down the rest of the guns that weren’t turned in at the end of the process. Then when youre done, you disincentivize bad actors by ramping up the penalties for gun possession significantly, and actually enforce those laws.

It’s not hard, just needs to be done.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Like I said:

The US is so fucking dumb

[–] SCB 2 points 11 months ago

If people want to be felons that's their choice, but it's absurd to suggest any armed resistance would occur, or matter, in such an instance

[–] andrewta 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As the previous person said there is no way to get it done. Yes there is something called a constitutional amendment, but if there is no realistic way to get it passed then effectively there is no way to get it done.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As the previous person said there is no way to get it done

The "we've tried nothing and were all out of isdeas" approach...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I mean, I think California just tried something. New York, D.C., New Jersey, Illinois/Chicago, and some other places too.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

But you can’t change the constitution!!!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Sure there is. It's easy.

Just start giving black people guns.

The so-called second amendment absolutists will be calling for draconian gun control measures within a week.

[–] Sorgan71 20 points 11 months ago

I'm pro gun and I want most black people to own guns.

[–] Mango 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We already do that. They're perfectly welcome to defend themselves and even more so given our police.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They aren't.

And aside from that, that's not the point. The point is that, historically, when black people start arming themselves even the NRA starts calling for gun control.

[–] SmoothIsFast 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes, that's because gun control is racist and classist.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 0 points 11 months ago

Not wanting schools shot up is racist and classiest apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm 2nd amendment agnostic but I do recognize the fact that policing is different when the population is armed and policing has often been antagonistic to the black community.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

"Arm the homeless"

[–] doppelgangmember 1 points 10 months ago

Here's a solution:

Ban straw sales/gun show loopholes, improve auditing/background checks, do gun buybacks above rate, and ban AR sales after X date. Bought before the date, you're grandfathered in but can't sell/gift the weapon.

[–] doppelgangmember 1 points 10 months ago

Here's a solution:

Ban straw sales/gun show loopholes, improve auditing/background checks, do gun buybacks above rate, and ban AR sales after X date. Bought before the date, you're grandfathered in but can't sell/gift the weapon.

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