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Why aren't modern 3D platformers as good as the PS2 era of 3D platformers? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Lafari to c/asklemmy

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Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.

Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet & Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.

Edit: It's not a nostalgia thing. The quality of the PS2 platformers was actually better. Even ones I discovered recently that exist on PS2 or that I hadn't played before. If I compare them side by side with modern 3D platformers, they look like s*** compared to the PS2 ones. And case in point, there are literally no open world 3rd person shooter-3D platformers with detailed worlds/graphics outside of PS2 (that I know of) and those are the kinds of 3D platformers I enjoy most... give me an example to prove me wrong. Ok technically I know of a few examples which meet some but not all of this criteria (only because I've looked far and wide for them) but they're very basic and nowhere near as intricate as these games.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can't comment on the 3rd person shooter/3d platformer hybrids, but games like Mario Odyssey are fantastic modern 3d platformers. Meanwhile I've recently replayed some 3d platformers from the n64-gamecube eras and found they didn't hold up as well as I remembered.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Super mario odyssey is the most polished and impressive 3d mario game ever made. Not sure how people think that n64 mario is better except for nostalgia.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it comes down to the combo of nostalgia in combo with iconic games. For example, Mario 64 was so cool when it came out. Even the feel of it was new and different to anything else available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It laid the groundwork for what made future platformers good

[+] Lafari -9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree the N64 and GameCube ones aren't as good as the PS2 ones from an objective standpoint. All the best platformers exist on PS2, I really don't know why. They just went on a roll.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So...you grew up with Ps2 is what i'm hearing.

[+] Lafari -7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There are no 3rd person shooter-platformers on the other consoles, I've used a bunch of consoles including N64 and GameCube. They just don't have the same kinds of games. I wish people would look past the fact they're old and assuming it's just a nostalgia thing... I can explain why the PS2 platformers are more complex and detailed and better

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

3rd person shooters are already a small niche and that's without even including platformer!

Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a subgenre of a subgenre

[–] dpkonofa 4 points 11 months ago

I can explain why the PS2 platformers are more complex and detailed and better

Then why haven’t you? The whole problem is you keep saying that this is objectively true without providing any evidence that comes anywhere close to being objective.