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[–] Son_of_dad 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Somewhat related, but I learned today that Phil Shea who worked as the prop master on the office, died by suicide earlier this week, he was 62. He had a family and friends who loved him, but clearly wasn't speaking to anyone about what was really going on in his head. Older guys tend to be more closed up about speaking up

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cuz society mocks and looks down upon men who open up and talk. There's very little room for error being a man.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every time I've opened up it's been ignored at best and ridiculed at worst. I just stopped.

[–] Son_of_dad 6 points 1 year ago

Thankfully I have a spouse I can open up to 100% with and will make me feel heard and supported. When I'm at a boiling point, she's good at helping me to ease up. If it wasn't for her though, my mental health would be in the gutter.

[–] billwashere 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know the feeling.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thankfully this is changing... I see a clear divide in attitudes in my workplace between the boomers nearing retirement, and the new kids (Gen Z) that are coming in fresh out of college. And all I can say is: good riddance. Boomers are fucking toxic, but the Gen Z kids see right through that bullshit.

[–] ikidd -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"But this generation is different!"

Give me a break.

[–] billwashere 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an old guy (well old enough) I understand the sentiment. We are the providers, the protectors, the ones that aren’t supposed to show weaknesses or vulnerabilities. As an older gen x’er we weren’t taught how to talk about our feelings. It can be tough for sure.

[–] billiam0202 4 points 1 year ago

For those who don't know, this is the other end of the toxic masculinity spectrum - the cultural idea that there is a certain way men are supposed to act, and we're perceived as weak or effeminate if we don't. We don't allow (or aren't allowed to) ourselves to express our emotions in a healthy way, so we bottle them up until the stress either kills us, or we kill ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Phil Shea

Oh shit actually a name I've heard that means something to me. That's no fun news :(